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Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Question)
albie

Posted on 05/21/2010 11:32:56 AM PDT by albie

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To: stuartcr
"Shouldnt you solicit multiple sources, to find out the real effects? Is there a possibility that just asking freepers may slant your data a bit? ...I do have other sources. But if you read a few of these, you'll see that they cover the subject quite nicely and thoroughly.
21 posted on 05/21/2010 12:03:07 PM PDT by albie
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To: albie

senator Fullbright along with his intern Bill clinton lead a filibuster against it along with Al Gore sr.


22 posted on 05/21/2010 12:05:53 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: albie

She should mention that regardless of the good intent and positive or negative results of the Civil Rights Legislation - one definite effect is that the scope of the law has metasticized to cover any aggrieved group that is willing to label itself. We now have a large political class that see it appropropriate for the Government to identify all groups and problems as one of “civil rights.” That same class distorts the “Civil Rights” argument now to justify Government control and limits on speech and individual freedom on nearly every issue in the USA - religion, homosexuality, immigration, poverty, health care, war and peace, the military, environmentalism, etc....


23 posted on 05/21/2010 12:10:13 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: albie

good discussion via podcast on this...

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24 posted on 05/21/2010 12:11:05 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: albie; irishtenor

Also point out that it was a Democrat who federalized segregation (Woodrow Wilson), it was Democrats who opposed anti-lynching legislation in the 1930s, it was Democrats who successfully watered down the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950s, and it was Democrats who opposed (and to this day continue to oppose) equal protection guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. Be sure to also point out that it was a Republican (Eisenhower) who brought an end to federal segregation and integrated Little Rock schools, and it was a Republican (Everett Dirksen) who wrote the Voting Rights Act.


25 posted on 05/21/2010 12:12:07 PM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Ingtar
Sheesh, somebody sure messed up this part! "...without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin..."
26 posted on 05/21/2010 12:12:21 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: albie
I have a few suggestions to get you started.

Although it is somewhat dated, The Civil Rights Act of 1964, published by Greenhaven Press as part of its "Opposing Viewpoints" series, provides a balanced analysis of the law and its impact by writers from various points of view. Books published by Greenhaven tend to be reliable.

Another book you might consult is The laws that shaped America : fifteen acts of Congress and their lasting impact by Dennis Johnson, published by Routledge, a company that specializes in reference books, in 2009.

The Lincoln Review, which was published by The Lincoln Institute, a conservative black think tank should have some articles that deal with the law. Unfortunately, the site is not searchable, but you can browse the contents of the journals, as well as the letters and the commentaries.

Good luck on your project.

27 posted on 05/21/2010 12:13:05 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Jack Wilson
Instead of simply outlawing the Democratic-written Jim Crow laws which required businesses to discriminate against blacks, vast bureaucracies were set up to enforce new federal laws which replaced one type of discrimination with another type.

like discrimination of gun owners.
28 posted on 05/21/2010 12:15:35 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: albie

The Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960 had been strongly opposed by the southern Democrats(including LBJ). The Civil Rights Bill of 1964 was meant to prevent discrimination based on race, national origin etc. It was strongly opposed by the southern Democrats and supported primarily by Republicans. After it proved popular LBJ switched and supported it.

In debate, supporters stated specifically that it would prohibits quotas and racial preferences. As soon as it passed they changed their story.

Barry Goldwater and other conservatives opposed the bill stating that it would create new government powers and regulations outside the scope of the bill.

Until 1964, Lyndon Johnson ran as a segregationist. Barry Goldwater treated people of all races with respect.


29 posted on 05/21/2010 12:15:42 PM PDT by detective
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To: Hoodat
Also point out that it was a Democrat who federalized segregation (Woodrow Wilson), it was Democrats who opposed anti-lynching legislation in the 1930s, it was Democrats who successfully watered down the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950s, and it was Democrats who opposed (and to this day continue to oppose) equal protection guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. Be sure to also point out that it was a Republican (Eisenhower) who brought an end to federal segregation and integrated Little Rock schools, and it was a Republican (Everett Dirksen) who wrote the Voting Rights Act.

Wow, you seem very knowledgeable of the topic.

With that being the case, could you please name one since Republican from the South in the House or Senate that voted on favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

30 posted on 05/21/2010 12:17:58 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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'Civil Rights was good but it led to some not-so-good other ideologies that are subverting what is great about this country."

Yes, I think this is right. For me, the worst piece of legislation passed in the wake of the Civil Rights Act, was the Voting Rights Act, which was passed the next year - 1965.

It was a mistake to renew that Act two years ago, but the politics of the issue didn't allow Republican to take a principled (and correct) stand. The VRA established a separate set of rules for some states, clearly violating the spirit (perhaps the letter) of the equal protection clause. Those separate rules continue today, some 48 years later. It's time to move on from the 1960s.

31 posted on 05/21/2010 12:20:24 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Hoodat
Also point out that it was a Democrat who federalized segregation (Woodrow Wilson), it was Democrats who opposed anti-lynching legislation in the 1930s, it was Democrats who successfully watered down the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950s, and it was Democrats who opposed (and to this day continue to oppose) equal protection guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. Be sure to also point out that it was a Republican (Eisenhower) who brought an end to federal segregation and integrated Little Rock schools, and it was a Republican (Everett Dirksen) who wrote the Voting Rights Act.

Wow, you seem very knowledgeable of the topic.

With that being the case, could you please name one Republican from the South in the House or Senate that voted on favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

32 posted on 05/21/2010 12:20:54 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Fiji Hill

Thanks for your input!


33 posted on 05/21/2010 12:21:11 PM PDT by albie
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To: detective

Great points! Thanks!


34 posted on 05/21/2010 12:21:33 PM PDT by albie
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To: NavyCanDo

Lots of good info here. Thanks!


35 posted on 05/21/2010 12:21:56 PM PDT by albie
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To: JimSEA

“From a personal viewpoint, this act, along with some Supreme Court
decisions...”

...awesome point, thanks!


36 posted on 05/21/2010 12:24:29 PM PDT by albie
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To: Ingtar

Thank you. That was a most illuminating point. It made my day :-)

(One of the reasons I love FR is that you learn things that you didn’t know you didn’t know.)


37 posted on 05/21/2010 12:26:50 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: albie
Another book you might consult, if it's available in a local library, is The American Way: Family & Community In Shaping Of American Identity by Allan Carlson (Wilmington, Del.: ISI, 2003), which examines the impact of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 on American families.
38 posted on 05/21/2010 12:29:02 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: IrishCatholic

* blushes * We are a home school family. I make it a habit of trying to help research things for students of any stripe.


39 posted on 05/21/2010 12:29:55 PM PDT by Ingtar (If Palin were perfect, she could campaign for godhood. Since she is human, Obama's job will do.)
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To: albie
A short essay by Ron Paul .

The Trouble With Forced Integration

40 posted on 05/21/2010 12:32:34 PM PDT by Pontiac
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