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Open Letter to Bill O’Reilly (re: LTC Lakin, Obama, NBCgate, Certifigate)
safeguardourconstitution.com ^ | 4/19/2010 | The American Patriot Foundation

Posted on 04/19/2010 10:58:01 AM PDT by rxsid

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To: edge919

“The lack of standing doesn’t have anything to do with who is ‘charged with ensuring eligibility.’”

Read what you wrote and admit you were drunk when you wrote it...

Or read some court cases - some of the many that birthers have lost.


61 posted on 04/20/2010 7:27:08 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers
Read what you wrote and admit you were drunk when you wrote it.

Me drunk is still at least 1,000 times smarter than what you originally posted. No case says that being charged with ensuring eligibility is the reason that standing is denied. Standing is about stating particularized legal harm.

62 posted on 04/20/2010 8:27:08 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Mr Rogers
Any update here?

"Cite the United States law, from 1961, that would deny a foreigner THEIR right to pass their foreign citizenship onto their child born in the states

63 posted on 04/20/2010 11:12:36 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid; Mr Rogers
These two also:

Do you honestly believe the Founding Fathers sacrificed everything so that the son of a Brit could one day become POTUS and that they were so inept as to allow a loop hole in the Constitution so that it could happen?

"As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children."

64 posted on 04/20/2010 12:28:02 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: rxsid; Las Vegas Ron

“”Cite the United States law, from 1961, that would deny a foreigner THEIR right to pass their foreign citizenship onto their child born in the states”

Foreign governments can give any right they wish - as I’ve pointed out, Putin could give all Americans Russian citizenship - and it wouldn’t count for squat unless a person took steps to claim what the foreign government gave.

And as I’ve pointed out before, one of the causes of the War of 1812 was that the British government claimed someone who was a naturalized US citizen still owed allegiance to England - and we fought a successful war to REJECT that idea.

There is no need for a US law since 1961, given that it has been US law - backed by war - since before 1812.

“These two also:

Do you honestly believe the Founding Fathers sacrificed everything so that the son of a Brit could one day become POTUS and that they were so inept as to allow a loop hole in the Constitution so that it could happen?”

The US Constitution allowed someone born abroad to be President, if they were a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted...so it specifically allowed, not just the son of a Brit, but someone BORN in Britain to become President, if they were a citizen in 1783.

They did NOT restrict the presidency to those born in the US of US parents, but just to those born in the US. The question, as I pointed out to you in previous links, was “Would this person by birth owe natural allegiance to the USA and not a foreign power?”

“”As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.”

Wrong, as discussed above. It gave Barry the OPTION of moving to the UK and declaring himself a British citizen, but it could not rob him of his American birthright. Anyone claiming Barry has divided loyalties between the USA and the UK is a blithering idiot, and the courts have consistently rejected that stupid idea - as did 50 states, and the US Congress without ANY exception.


65 posted on 04/20/2010 2:19:36 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers; rxsid
You really are retarded, bordering on insanity.
66 posted on 04/20/2010 2:49:13 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Mr Rogers; Las Vegas Ron
That's all you've got? Can't cite a US law that would prevent a child born in the states from inheriting his/her father's foreign citizenship?

You can't. And the reason you can't, is that no such law exists....because the U.S. can not deny a foreigner from passing their "citizenship" unto their children.

As a Barry supporter you should feel ashamed for trying to deny the man his father's heritage.

67 posted on 04/20/2010 4:41:12 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

“the U.S. can not deny a foreigner from passing their “citizenship” unto their children.”

Nor can they compel it - which is sufficient. The courts and our government have consistently ruled that someone born in the US is a US citizen by birth, with no allegiance to any other state unless they desire it.

The exceptions are the children of foreign diplomats, military, etc. And they STILL are US citizens unless they reject it by choice when old enough to do so, having obtained citizenship the natural way - by birth!


68 posted on 04/20/2010 6:14:22 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers; rxsid
The courts and our government have consistently ruled that someone born in the US is a US citizen by birth, with no allegiance to any other state unless they desire it.

Liar, prove it.

Cite a case with that specific language.

69 posted on 04/20/2010 6:19:07 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Mr Rogers
"The courts and our government have consistently ruled that someone born in the US is a US citizen by birth, with no allegiance to any other state unless they desire it.

Liar, prove it.

Cite a case with that specific language."

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Of course, he can't prove it and he knows it. So, he rambles on about non-sense.

Barry, born the subject of the crown of her majesty the Queen of England REGARDLESS of where he was born.

Assuming Sr. was his legal father at birth.

70 posted on 04/21/2010 10:52:22 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid; Las Vegas Ron

I’ve proved it more than once. I’m sorry you are too stupid to read English.


71 posted on 04/21/2010 10:55:41 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers; Las Vegas Ron
"I’ve proved it more than once. I’m sorry you are too stupid to read English."

Don't be a child.

You continue to assert that such a law exists. Either man up, or go away.

Provide the US law that prevents a child born in the states from inheriting their foreign parent(s) foreign citizenship.

72 posted on 04/21/2010 12:48:17 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Mr Rogers; rxsid
I’ve proved it more than once. I’m sorry you are too stupid to read English.

Well, we don't know who you are but you have revealed what you are.

73 posted on 04/21/2010 1:58:13 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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