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Concealed carry couldn't have saved lives at Virginia Tech (A poorly argued article)
Rocky Mountain Collegian ^ | 12/7/2009 | John O. Woods

Posted on 12/07/2009 10:55:55 AM PST by greatdefender

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To: sima_yi

“Guns will not deter suicidal mass shooters.”

This is why we see so many mass murders in police stations. (/s)

And gun shows. /s
And gun ranges. /s
And gun stores. /s
and gun ...


21 posted on 12/07/2009 12:45:22 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: greatdefender

The one point he made in his entire argument was right, but for the wrong reasons. That is, a student waving around a legal gun is likely to be shot by the police. But this goes against the entire concept of concealed carry, which gives you a huge tactical edge *until* you brandish your gun.

While I have no objection to those who prefer open carry, I would personally never do so, because I would lose so much advantage in a gun fight.

Heck, I wouldn’t want my opponent to even see my knife in a knife fight, so I would hide it behind my wrist until it was used.

The second I see a gunman, I try to maneuver towards cover if possible. Towards cover and concealment if at all possible. If he feels my bullets before he sees my gun, fine with me. And if he sees angels before he sees me, that is fine with me as well.

And a point of style: if I see a police officer’s shoes, I see no compelling reason to make myself known. If I see a police officer with gun drawn, they are busy, so no reason for me to distract him from what he is doing.

Most important of all, if the opportunity to bug out with reasonable safety happens, take it. It is not your job to gun down desperados, unless you have to, need to, or are given the opportunity to.


22 posted on 12/07/2009 12:47:01 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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i couldnt get past the first few paragraphs...

prolly needed somethin for his resume...

23 posted on 12/07/2009 1:09:03 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: greatdefender

Look for this guy to be the latest Cindy Sheehan/Meghan McCain all over the tube, including Larry King, The View, Daily Show, etc.


24 posted on 12/07/2009 1:15:44 PM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: greatdefender
Concealed carry couldn't have saved lives at Virginia Tech

I am firmly convinced that only a liberal fool would utter such a meaningless assertion. I say liberal, because of the display of static thinking.

This statement contains the evidence of static thinking, the girl I mentioned, who died in German class -- never saw the shooter come in. What good would a gun have done her? First of all were others armed there is the possibility the shooter would never have reached the German class, second, if the girl were armed she would have had the opportunity to be prepared to shoot first.

As for shootings with fewer victims, it's hard to tell. No it isn’t hard to tell, it is obvious fewer victims would be the result if others were armed. Static thinking liberals have never understood the wisdom of the observation that an armed society is a polite society, and likely they never will.

25 posted on 12/07/2009 1:23:20 PM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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The author is delusional ;
From the State’s report.
QUOTE After killing Professor Loganathan and several students in room 206, Cho went across the hall to room 207, a German class taught by Christopher James Bishop. Cho shot Professor Bishop and several students near the door. He then started down the aisle shooting others. Four students and Bishop ultimately died in this room, with another six wounded by gunshot. One student tried to wrench free the podium that was fastened securely to the floor in order to build a barricade at the door. She was unsuccessful and injured herself in the process.UNQUOTE
FULL TEXT AT http://s3.amazonaws.com/hamptonroadscom/store/1181.pdf
His girlfriend was in a class that got attacked second and tried to save itself by barricading the door.
If someone had carried in his 'girlfriend’s’class she'd be alive today.

26 posted on 12/07/2009 1:29:00 PM PST by SWO
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Even if the only choices are slim and none, I will always take slim.
27 posted on 12/07/2009 2:00:28 PM PST by TYVets (Let's Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
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And gun shows and target ranges./s


28 posted on 12/07/2009 5:58:29 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("Need has never produced anything. It has only been an excuse to steal from those with ablity.")
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