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At Ur, Ritual Deaths That Were Anything but Serene
NY Times ^ | October 27, 2009 | JOHN NOBLE WILFORD

Posted on 10/27/2009 4:30:35 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy
"No wonder Abraham left... "

When Abraham lived in Ur, it was a seaside town. It has silted up all the way to Basra since.

Futhermore, the Persian Gulf was completely dry during the Ice Age.

21 posted on 10/27/2009 5:13:42 PM PDT by blam
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The stories of Abram, Isaac, Jacob in their dealings with extended family in their land of origin seem to indicate that they did not come from impoverished people. And as descendants of Shem, they might well have occupied some important station in life.


22 posted on 10/27/2009 5:40:25 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Also can get rid of divided loyalties and entrenched bureaucratic power - paving the way for a new ruler and his personal patronage system.


23 posted on 10/27/2009 6:14:19 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; All

Does anyone know what Melchisideck (sp?) might have had to do with any of this? Some time ago, I recall reading something interesting about this, can’t remember exactly what.


24 posted on 10/27/2009 8:34:21 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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Wasn’t this around the period of the monumental Chinese burial of the 2,000 clay soldiers? I read that these were probably a symbolic replacement for actual human sacrifices at a not too distant earlier period.


25 posted on 10/27/2009 8:35:59 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Pharmboy
Instead, a sharp instrument, a pike perhaps, was driven into their heads.

A nice, pithy explanation.

26 posted on 10/27/2009 9:03:25 PM PDT by Ken H
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I'd always hoped for a better idea of what went on at Ur than we have. The Bible is mostly silent except that Abram was commanded to leave,

Actually, The Bible says that Abram was commanded to leave a place called Haran which is even today in Turkey. Abram's father Terah is the one that took his family and left Ur. The Bible says that the LORD says that He is the one who had brought Abram out Ur of the Chaldees, but the Bible says that the LORD commanded Abram to leave when he was living in Haran after his father had died.

It is interesting that the names Abraham's relatives and ancestors Peleg, Serug, Nahor and Terah, are names of cities around Haran and Haran was actually the name of Lot's father, Abrams brother.

Also, it is interesting to note that Abram came out of a family that actually had succumbed to idol worship according to Joshua 24:2.

Jos 24:2 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, [even] Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods.

27 posted on 10/27/2009 9:10:51 PM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: gleeaikin

Melchizedek was the King of Salem and also the Priest of God. He gave Abram a blessing and praised God for Abram’s victories. Abram gave a tenth of everything won in the battle to Melchizedek.

Salem later became Jeru-salem and during the time of David, David says that God says about him (David) “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek” (Psalms 110)

The writer of Hebrews takes it further at the end of Chapter 6/beginning of Chapter 7 of that book by saying “It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain,
where Jesus, who went before us, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.”

Melchizedek is the first High Priest of God mentioned in the Bible. He was a prophet, a priest and a King. He was essential to Abram and who he would become.


28 posted on 10/28/2009 5:31:43 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Ken H

Maybe they had to do that for the Ur High School biology lab.


29 posted on 10/28/2009 8:12:01 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Pharmboy; SunkenCiv

On the other hand, they could have been drugged enough to sedate them so they could be led quietly to their places in neat rows.

“Yes, Sir, your honor, right this way I have a nice place for you in the front row. All Comfy?

SMACK!

NEXT!


30 posted on 10/28/2009 10:34:21 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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