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DOJ to judge: dump birthers' suit
Politico ^ | 09/07/2009 | Josh Gerstein

Posted on 09/07/2009 6:09:15 AM PDT by Free America52

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To: hoosiermama

I never said it was a law. What’s your point?


421 posted on 09/07/2009 6:00:43 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

And if he uses the DOJ and it is found that he didn’t qualify to use them he ends up with jail time....Same thing was presented to WJC with his bimbos, and he decided to hire his own attorneys, just in case.


422 posted on 09/07/2009 6:02:23 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Then I would submit to you that if this is a case of the “president” against the people of the United States of America and it is still the duty of the Department of Justice to determine the facts in the case, and that means they should be accessing the state of Hawaii’s records in this matter.

Clearly by shunting to the side any and all cases concerning this matter the People are not being represented by their government.


423 posted on 09/07/2009 6:02:37 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: hoosiermama; BuckeyeTexan
Those are all procedural cases....Find the law passed by legislature. It is prodecural not a law.

Standing is a requirement for civil suits, not criminal cases.

424 posted on 09/07/2009 6:03:14 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

You do realise that the executive office has it’s own lawyer for the President, Elena Kagan is his Solicitor General and is tasked with representing him.


425 posted on 09/07/2009 6:07:38 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: Non-Sequitur
But until you can prove the answer is NO then the DOJ does act as his personal attorney.
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Again....How many angels can dance on the head of a legal pin?

A competent and honest government attorney would have said:

“Mr. Obama, immediately release the documents that prove you are a natural born citzen. Stop wasting my time and the taxpayer's money!”

A generous government attorney would have given Obama the $15 to $50 needed to get it done. He might have even taken the 10 minutes to make the few phone calls needed just so he could get back to doing the important work that needs to be done for the American citizen.

Obama is **irrational**! Only someone who is completely NUTZ would let this matter get this far. An honest and straightforward occupant of the White House would have been HONORED and pleased to prompt prove he was a natural born citizen!

426 posted on 09/07/2009 6:08:06 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Non-Sequitur; usmcobra

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373


427 posted on 09/07/2009 6:10:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Candor7; Non-Sequitur

you are parsing your arguments
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I call it the “Dance on the Head of a Pin Samba”!

Please read post number #426.


428 posted on 09/07/2009 6:11:49 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime

Obama cannot prove he is a natural born citizen. And it is looking more every day like he can’t even prove he was born in Hawaii without using fraudulent exhibits. He started out that way, posting fradulent exhibits, so why would he suddenly have a genuine exhibit to display?


429 posted on 09/07/2009 6:12:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Exactly!

And...The state run media can't provide cover for Obama forever. With the Internet and other modern means this news is out and about with or without ABCCBSMSNBC...etc.

Just like the school speech, the tea parties, and the townhalls...Americans don't like it when they are cheated.

430 posted on 09/07/2009 6:15:35 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: usmcobra
You do realise that the executive office has it’s own lawyer for the President, Elena Kagan is his Solicitor General and is tasked with representing him.

No, the Solicitor General's primary responsibility is to represent the United States before the Supreme Court. You may be confusing her with the White House Counsel's office. That person is the principle legal advisor to the president on policy questions - conflicts of interest, ethics questions, vetoes, things like that.

Again, the president gets sued dozens, if not hundreds of times each year. I was reading not too long ago where Obama was sued by a bunch of kids in LA because their parents were deported as illegal aliens. Neither the White House Counsel or the Solicitor General has the time or staff to deal with all the nuisance suits that get filed.

431 posted on 09/07/2009 6:16:04 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; hoosiermama

Yep.

I said that standing is the legal basis by which the court determines if a plaintiff may bring an action.


432 posted on 09/07/2009 6:18:01 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Why do you Obama supporters call people who want a Kenyan to prove he is a citizen the “Birther community”?

Oh, never mind, I understand now! It is because that is how all liberal leftist and idiots in the media refer to them.

Sorry to have bothered you will all of this following the Constitution nonsense.


433 posted on 09/07/2009 6:20:41 PM PDT by Eaker (If you have a problem and If explosives are an option then explosives are THE answer.)
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To: Candor7
This is the context in which you make your arguments, and you act as if that context did not exist. Your perigrinations are beyond hilarious.

As are your arguement. You make claims we're supposed to accept are true merely because you make them. But regardless, none of what you mention has any bearing at all on Obama's Constitutional qualifications for the presidency, which is the issue here. They're irrelevant.

434 posted on 09/07/2009 6:26:01 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Because it's procedural it is more flexible than if it was the law.....Any judge can determine independently what is “standing” in his court. Granted it can be argued using other case procedures but it is still the individual judge that determines “standing” and ultimately produces another case and rational.
435 posted on 09/07/2009 6:26:13 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

Placemark.


436 posted on 09/07/2009 6:27:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: hoosiermama
And if he uses the DOJ and it is found that he didn’t qualify to use them he ends up with jail time...

If Obama is found to be constitutionally ineligible to be president, then the use of U.S. Attorneys is the least of his worries. If he is impeached then he's on his own for a legal team.

Same thing was presented to WJC with his bimbos, and he decided to hire his own attorneys, just in case.

The activities that Paula Jones sued Clinton over took place before he was president, therefore he had to get his own attorneys.

437 posted on 09/07/2009 6:28:39 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: usmcobra
Then I would submit to you that if this is a case of the “president” against the people of the United States of America ...

It is a case of the President against one rather dim-witted California attorney. Don't give Taitz any more delusions than she's already suffering under.

438 posted on 09/07/2009 6:30:24 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

And Obama signed the documentations presented by the Democrat party to the SoS of each state before he was elected. Fraud, if not accurate.


439 posted on 09/07/2009 6:31:46 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Yeah, it was all a big conspiracy because Chet Arthur had a feeling that 16 years later some Chinese guy would file a suit on citizenship and there was a chance that Justice Gray might be selected to write the majority decision, and Arthur wanted to make sure the fix was in. I swear you people must not realize just how ridiculous you sound some times.

I'm sorry. Did I undermine that wonderful point you were making. Please continue with your spin and that guy Gray who you seem to always be quoting --

440 posted on 09/07/2009 6:31:46 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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