DOJ to judge: dump birthers' suit

Politico ^ | 09/07/2009 | Josh Gerstein

[Uncle Chip]

A fine example. You do not agree what his ideas. And appear to believe that the only way he could present the conclusions he does is if he was paid to do so.

I'm sorry -- did my post hit too close to home for you???

[BuckeyeTexan]

If Holder appoints a special prosecutor, the government (DOJ) becomes the plaintiff and Obama would be immediately required to obtain private attorneys.

[hoosiermama]

Failure to defend the constitution against enemies from within IS a personal choice not a job description; therefore, they should be paying their own bills, not being defended at tax payer expense.

[Uncle Chip]

A fair number of folks who post to these threads and call themselves ‘birthers’ are approaching this issue in a different manner than you are, and as a result of this there is only so much anyone can do for them. They are simply not going to get it. For some it is purely emotional. Any facts that contradict their worldview cannot even be considered. For others an opposition to their worldview threatens their view of themselves. If something they believe is presented as being wrong or bad, then they behave as if they themselves are accused of being wrong or bad. For others it’s just a child-like view of the world. They are good. They hate things that are bad. They hate Barack Obama. Anyone who does not share this view must also be bad. There are other examples, but that’s a fair start.

And which one of those are you???

[MHGinTN]

A joke you are ... and a fool at FR to be proud of being dishonest. Have nice evening.

[usmcobra]

Obama was not sworn in at the time the lawsuit was launched.

If anything the Department of Justice whose job it is to protect the People of the United States from things like election fraud, voter intimidation. illegal political contributions, and money laundering should be investigating Obama and his organisation to find out where 750 million dollars that it received came from, unless of course we are to believe a Mr. “Loving You” actually lives inside a Salvation Army store in Texas was allowed by law to donate more than the law allows.

[BuckeyeTexan]

every citizen of the united states is injured

Yes, thus the basis of the DOJ's legal argument. Legal standing requires that the injury/damages be unique to the individual plaintiff. Since everyone is equally injured, no one has standing. It SUCKS, but that's the way it is. Generally speaking, there is also no individual taxpayer standing.

[hoosiermama]

Yes. And if he is found to perjure himself as WJC did, then that will be the action.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Are you kidding me? Officers of the executive branch must swear an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. It’s a requirement in order to hold the office, therefore it is a duty of the office. Failure to do so is not a “personal action” as you’ve defined it. It’s plain and simple “negligence of official duties.”

[El Sordo]

Not in the slightest.

Why do you ask?

[hoosiermama]

“Standing” is not a legal issue but a tool originated by the court system to help it be more efficient....Standing itself should be adjudicated.

[little jeremiah]

Ping me to interesting threads on this topic whenver you feel so inclined. I’m exremely busy and can only check on FR when I steal the time...hopefully have more time in a few weeks...

This is really getting exciting. I can’t wait until 0 resigns.

[tioga]

that is really messed up!

[El Sordo]

Plainly, I am not a birther.

Though I have fallen in to one or more of those traps of unclear thinking on various topics over the course of my life.

I expect to catch myself doing it time and again until I die.

It’s a very human failing.

[hoosiermama]

Yes!! “It’s plain and simple “negligence of official duties.”

As I said earlier: negligence, bias, ignorance.....
Now you understand what I've been leading to.....They should be paying their own bill, not being defended at tax payer expense.

Orly can also argue they received their position by choosing to ignore the constitution in exchange for being rewarded with a specific position in the government. (pay for play)

[Uncle Chip]

If anything the Department of Justice whose job it is to protect the People of the United States from things like election fraud, voter intimidation. illegal political contributions, and money laundering should be investigating Obama and his organisation to find out where 750 million dollars that it received came from

Instead it is intervening in a case that Obama could have dismissed for merely $12 of that $750 million. It is evident at this point that that $12 document does not exist.

[usmcobra]

... and a fool at FR to be proud of being dishonest. Have nice evening.

Hey Non, does this remind you of someone?

One thing you must understand about Trolls, Professional Trolls are egoless, they have to be, nothing you can say will injure their egos.

Why? because Professional Trolls exploit the egos of their victims and attack the hypocrisy of those they choose to attack.

"A joke you are"

Your ego hopes that such a snide remark will piece my heart and wound me to the core, you could stand inches away from my nose and let loose with a fiery blast of endless obscenities and never see me blink an eye, it's been done before by better men than you could ever hope to be.

[nufsed]

Seems simple to me. Candidate Obama is charged with not being qualified to be president. Since the ministerial responsibilities of the secretaries of state, the electoral college, the congress and the USSC were not met, he was sworn in.

However, the charges are regarding his behavior as a candidate. He signed a form provided by the party, that he met the requirements. That form was given to the secretaries of state. This was all clearly before the election.

The DOJ has no responsibility to represent a party based upon their actions prior to taking office and they are wasting tax payer money.

[MHGinTN]

;^) ... nice try!

[sbMKE]

Can you give me the name and state of even one of these Obama “private” attorneys? They’ve been active all over from what I read on these threads but no one has named a name in any of them that I can tell - even though many agree that his legal fees are in excess of $1,000,000.