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The Lies Are Out There: UFOs, Hollywood, the US government and military
forteantimes.com ^ | July 2009 | Robbie Graham and Matthew Alford

Posted on 08/24/2009 8:23:21 AM PDT by Nikas777

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My subjects of interests are in history, militaria, religions/theologies, archeology,myths and legends and while I do not generally believe in the following subjects, for fun (and to maintain an open mind) I love reading about alternate/revisionist history (subjects like pre-Columbian transatlantic voyages, etc), crypto-zoology, UFOs and other Fortean happenings.

With that said, there was a great documentary a few years back that I saw online and on cable froma British reporter for Janes' and his opinion is that UFOs are cover story for any high tech black aviation program the American military/NASA work on.

What I like about this article is it highlights how there is a govt indirect role in every aspect of American life as if there is an over arching authority feeding us a message and checking to see that our medias are on message 24/7. It is perception of course. But the Military Industrial Complex and Hollywood have been pals since WW2.

1 posted on 08/24/2009 8:23:21 AM PDT by Nikas777
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To: Quix

ping


2 posted on 08/24/2009 8:23:35 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: Nikas777

Hollywood was behind Michael Moore’s stoopid film about 9/11 too.


3 posted on 08/24/2009 8:25:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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Actually, I’m more concerned about the Alien in the White House.
4 posted on 08/24/2009 8:26:37 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Hitler used a TelePrompter, we would all be speaking German...)
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To: Nikas777

Regardless of the veracity of any of these claims, I’m surprised that no administration has yet made a serious effort to use them to their political advantage.

Perhaps we’ll see a “Flying Saucer Czar” soon?


5 posted on 08/24/2009 8:28:37 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: a fool in paradise

For a socialist Michael Moore makes lots of money through the private sector. SInce none of his money comes from me or my tax dollars how he makes his money is not my problem.


6 posted on 08/24/2009 8:29:16 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: Kickass Conservative

Politics have lost their appeal for me so I will try to avoid that subject for the foreseeable future.


7 posted on 08/24/2009 8:30:01 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: Nikas777

Those who won’t believe in God will believe anything.


8 posted on 08/24/2009 8:33:20 AM PDT by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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The Pentagon specifically requested that “any government connection” to Area 51 or to Roswell be eliminated from the film.

I can understand the request on Area 51, but Roswell? Why is the Pentagon so sensitive on that?

9 posted on 08/24/2009 8:36:04 AM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: Nikas777; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; A knight without armor; albertp; areafiftyone; ...

Thanks.

Have accepted this as a wholesale fact for decades.

Anyone who doesn’t believe this is

—willfully ignorant or blind or
—grossly uninformed or
—living in gross denial or
—blithely clueless or
—too rigidly and stubbornly biased to be ABLE to consider the facts fairly or
—has been living in a very deep cave for a very long time. or
—has walled such stuff off as beneath their serious fair-minded consideration . . . or
— . . . .


10 posted on 08/24/2009 8:36:17 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Nikas777

Okay. I guess this explains the large number of Zombie movies too. Zombies are REAL and these movies are prepping us know what to do when the Zombie virus gets out. Must immediately shoot them in the head.


11 posted on 08/24/2009 8:37:51 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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Could it be that we are just being prepared for the inevitable? To many “excellent” videos (that could not be faked even with photoshop equipment) are showing things you would not believe.

Unless you have totally closed off your mind and won’t accept the possibility of other civilizations from the stars and photos from numerous cameras of the same objects that all show the same exact objects (clear as a bell), then you haven’t thought the subject through and remain biased (some would even say blinded).


12 posted on 08/24/2009 8:38:10 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Monday stretch...


13 posted on 08/24/2009 8:40:11 AM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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tat Pictures, Images and Photos

There are even more movies about vampires. They must be real too.

14 posted on 08/24/2009 8:43:25 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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AFTERTHOUGHT

Yes there are a lot of fakes, and unexplained objects in the sky’s. Forget those that could just be a bunch of balloons from someone’s birthday party

Some are obviously hub caps captured on film.

Some are so blurry they could be anything you want them to be.

More and more are being captured on film because people all over the world have cameras on their phones and video cameras have higher resolution than those in the past.

There are some pictures (movies and stills) that impressed even me. Do I know they are real? The verdict is still out, however, I have changed my mind considerably in the past few years.

Logic and probability have changed my mind 170 degrees from what I (used) to believe.


15 posted on 08/24/2009 8:46:47 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Snickering Hound

This going to require additional investigation.


16 posted on 08/24/2009 8:48:46 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: rbg81
First off, I pray for for the coming Zombie Apocalypse. I have been preparing for the Zombie hordes some time now.

With that said - Zombies could be a metaphor of the fear people have for collapse of society and for viral outbreaks.

In any case, always go for a head shot.

17 posted on 08/24/2009 8:49:04 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: rbg81
Zombie kitteh wants to eat your ceezebrgr


18 posted on 08/24/2009 8:49:41 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: Nikas777

When terrorist groups in Lebabon did the promotion and distribution of the movie in that market, it crossed the line into treason.

But that’s neither here nor there. It was a bad film.

If the conspiracy theory is that Hollywood makes UFO films to discredit UFO believers, then perhaps the same Hollywood would also make other movies to discredit crackpot theories (under the guise of supporting them).


19 posted on 08/24/2009 8:50:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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To: rbg81

The zombie infestation seems to be worse in Japan. There they have schoolgirl zombie films, gangster zombie films, timetraveller zombie films, and rock and roll zombie films.


20 posted on 08/24/2009 8:51:32 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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