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Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition [Survival Today - an On going Thread #3]
Frugal Dad .com ^ | July 23, 2009 | Frugal Dad

Posted on 07/24/2009 3:37:21 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny

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To: nw_arizona_granny
Sorry about that, the name Joseph Moshe keeps coming up, again & again, in reference to the H1N1 outbreak in Ukraine, but this latest alleged information was bogus.

I may not read anything ever again about any contagious illness, I've get chagrined at all the hours & hours & hours for weeks & weeks for months & months that I followed SARS and the Avian Flu, and now this H1N1 -- a better use of time & energy might be to await its discussion in history books, years from now.

Sorry again for the bogus ping.

4,581 posted on 11/19/2009 3:23:51 PM PST by hennie pennie
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FBI probe biggest plot since 9/11<<<

The FBI has released info on them for the past year, it is not news.

I picked it up 2 years ago on the San Diego Police Scanner,
anytime one went missing, they had a full out alert to find them, I know I followed the search for one young man who went missing from the college in San Diego for a full weekend and the end result was that he was visiting an uncle in Los Angeles.

The related news on it has been released as it happened, there was a part of it recently, about a man who rented a car and drove a car load of them to San Diego, it just happened that a cop stopped them in Las Vegas and checked them out, it was in the news about a month ago.

Sign up for the news releases from Milford 421, it is a group at Yahoo groups, but he puts out the best of what we dig up.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/under-investigation/

And for the best collection of the world terror headlines, sign up for the Jeffrey Imm publication, they are all free.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unitedstatesaction/


4,582 posted on 11/19/2009 3:31:06 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: hennie pennie

Sorry about that, the name Joseph Moshe keeps coming up, again & again, in reference to the H1N1 outbreak in Ukraine, but this latest alleged information was bogus.<<<

LOL, at least you knew the name and it was new to me.

Is he another missing scientist?

Play with google for dead and missing scientists and you will stay busy for a few more years, there were a couple more in the last month, hundreds of them over the 10 years that I have watched them.

It is almost always the scientists who are after the cures.


4,583 posted on 11/19/2009 3:37:38 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Joseph Moshe, depending upon which conspiracy website one reads, is either an ex-Mossad agent, or a microbiologist, or both.

It is alleged all over the place online, and I guess there's LOTS on UTube, that J.Moshe issued a warning about an outbreak of PLAGUE IN THE UKRAINE -- last August, months before the newspaper reports started appearing about people dying of apparent "pneumatic plague." Apparently part of his predictions included allegations that big pharma Baxter would be responsible, that plague would be spread via some vaccination program in Ukraine.

There is a mammoth amount of stuff about this online, way too much to follow, and most of it is on websites filled with Conspiracy Theorists so I've not read very much about it, but do recognize the name in a general sort of way.

Allegedly he is currently missing; but who knows?

It's probably all a big online hoax.

4,584 posted on 11/19/2009 4:04:51 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Joseph Moshe, depending upon which conspiracy website one reads, is either an ex-Mossad agent, or a microbiologist, or both.<<<<

Microbiologists are the #1 scientist to go missing and turn up dead.

Hard to guess what has happened to him and how he knew what was going to happen.

There is a reason that it is on the conspiracy sites, the same one that keeps all the important news from being freely published, ‘our main stream media, that does not write all the news’....

I followed the Kelly death in England, it was a suicide, that was impossible, and after several years, is now a murder under investigation.


4,585 posted on 11/19/2009 5:00:25 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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Vicks Sinex Nasal Spray - Recall

Audience: Consumers

Procter & Gamble and FDA notified consumers of a voluntary recall of three lots of Vicks Sinex Nasal Spray in the United States, Germany and the United Kingdom. The bacteria B. cepacia was found in a small amount of product made at its plant in Gross Gerau, Germany. There have been no reports of illness. However, the bacteria could cause serious infections for individuals with a compromised immune system, or those with chronic lung conditions, such as cystic fibrosis. Consumers should simply discard the affected product as they would any over the counter medicine. Customers who have the affected lots can call P&G for a replacement coupon or refund.

Read the complete MedWatch 2009 Safety summary, including a link to the firm press release, at:

http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm191413.htm


4,586 posted on 11/19/2009 5:34:51 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I never believed that Kelly committed suicide, either; and I don’t believe that that one American professor, sometime after 911, drove his car to a bridge, then slipped and fell off the bridge, and his body found months later, way downstream. They said he slipped on the icy bridge, and fell over. Sure.


4,587 posted on 11/20/2009 4:02:09 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: All
LOTS of new info about specific findings in people who died of H1N1 in Ukraine is located here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2278371/replies?c=6845

It's a very long posting, I haven't entirely finished reading it yet.

One thing that jumped out at me, though, is that there is mention of MANY Americans repeatedly testing negative for H1N1 - via nasal swabs, they'd be tested again & again & again, and NO, nothing - but in the autopsies, the H1N1 was found in lung tissue.

I don't recall reading that elsewhere, but if this is old news to you all, sorry.

4,588 posted on 11/20/2009 4:07:19 AM PST by hennie pennie
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A city farmer faces the challenges of urban gardening

In Los Angeles, an urban gardener with dreams of farming in the city found that
her soil was too polluted with lead and zinc to grow vegetables in the ground. But
she didn’t let that stop her.

Edible walls made by sheet metal fabricator
IN most ways, the Barthelmes Manufacturing Company is a typical sheet metal fabricator.

Five days a week, machines here stamp out thousands of computer cases, electrical
patch panels and other items for companies like United Technologies.

Yet a growing part of the company’s business is being devoted to something decidedly
unindustrial: edible walls - metal panels filled with soil and seeds and hung vertically.


Sydney Australia a step closer to realising City Farm vision

Sydney siders are one step closer to having a City Farm and Sustainable Living Centre
with the unanimous support of the City of Sydney Environment & Heritage Committee
to fund an investigation into potential sites and models.
City of Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore spoke in support of the proposal which goes
before a full sitting of Council on Monday November 23 .


Illinois policy makers take urban agriculture tour

Chicago, IL (IDOA Release)-Policy makers will see and hear about the impact urban
farms have on the communities that support them when they join the Urban Agriculture
Tour from 8:30 AM to 1 PM on November 19, 2009.

Approximately 50 members of the
Illinois General Assembly, Chicago aldermen, Cook County Board members, metropolitan
mayors, legislative staff, and funders are expected to participate in the bus tour.


Feeding Cleveland: Urban Agriculture

A recurring theme in 20th century Cleveland that continues to the present day is
that during difficult economic periods communities of people have come together
to raise food crops on city land. The working men’s farms during the Great Depression,
the victory gardens during World War II, community gardens established during the
years of urban renewal, and the present day market gardeners of the local food movement,
all provide examples of revivals of urban agriculture as a response to economic
difficulties.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All stories here.
City Farmer News [http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102838946811&s=1304&e=001sLvyDpqlE23MALStHud81O1RW-hc2YupwZaNkvhDPA04JoR-EJJO5f1RIhseMbmAsDOUAVlDBeOlLbNRK0m5ZdLCgPTokQcsA0M8OK9SkZJn—cKH5_izQ==]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Michael Levenston
City Farmer - Canada’s Office of Urban Agriculture


4,589 posted on 11/20/2009 10:26:55 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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This message contains the following:

1. Stainless Steel Cookware Recalled by Cost Plus World Market Due to Burn Hazard

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10044.html

2. Salomon USA Recalls Ski Bindings Due to Unexpected Release, Fall Hazard

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10045.html


4,590 posted on 11/20/2009 10:29:09 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: hennie pennie

It is interesting how many scientists get killed, Art Bell started watching them back in the late 1990’s and that got me into keeping an open mind for their deaths....

He got hooked the week that about 3 died, they claimed one was hit by a falling tree branch and killed, but no one saw it happen, just found his torn up body.

And then there was the Freeper, Love? who was murdered on the east coast, they said it was the dopers nearby, but he had just announced a new investigation into?

LOL, ok, brain is not in gear this morning.


4,591 posted on 11/20/2009 10:36:53 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: hennie pennie

One thing that jumped out at me, though, is that there is mention of MANY Americans repeatedly testing negative for H1N1 - via nasal swabs, they’d be tested again & again & again, and NO, nothing - but in the autopsies, the H1N1 was found in lung tissue.<<<<

Interesting, I had not read that before.


4,592 posted on 11/20/2009 10:37:38 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/notes/briefing_20091119/en/index.html

Safety of pandemic vaccines
Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 briefing note 16

19 NOVEMBER 2009 | GENEVA — To date, WHO has received vaccination information from 16 of around 40 countries conducting national H1N1 pandemic vaccine campaigns. Based on information in these 16 countries, WHO estimates that around 80 million doses of pandemic vaccine have been distributed and around 65 million people have been vaccinated. National immunization campaigns began in Australia and the People’s Republic of China in late September.

Vaccination campaigns currently under way to protect populations from pandemic influenza are among the largest in the history of several countries, and numbers are growing daily. Given this scale of vaccine administration, at least some rare adverse reactions, not detectable during even large clinical trials, could occur, underscoring the need for rigorous monitoring of safety. Results to date are encouraging.

Common side effects

As anticipated, side effects commonly reported include swelling, redness, or pain at the injection site, which usually resolves spontaneously a short time after vaccination.

Fever, headache, fatigue, and muscle aches, occurring shortly after vaccine administration, have also been reported, though with less frequency. These symptoms also resolve spontaneously, usually within 48 hours. In addition, a variety of allergic reactions has been observed. The frequency of these reactions is well within the expected range.

Guillain-Barre syndrome

To date, fewer than ten suspected cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome have been reported in people who have received vaccine. These numbers are in line with normal background rates of this illness, as reported in a recent study. Nonetheless, all such cases are being investigated to determine whether these are randomly occurring events or if they might be associated with vaccination.

WHO has received no reports of fatal outcomes among suspected or confirmed cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome detected since vaccination campaigns began. All cases have recovered. WHO recommends continued active monitoring for Guillain-Barre syndrome.

Investigations of deaths

A small number of deaths have occurred in people who have been vaccinated. All such deaths, reported to WHO, have been promptly investigated. Although some investigations are ongoing, results of completed investigations reported to WHO have ruled out a direct link to pandemic vaccine as the cause of death.

In China, for example, where more than 11 million doses of pandemic vaccine have been administered, health authorities have informed WHO of 15 cases of severe side effects and two deaths that occurred following vaccination. Thorough investigation of these deaths, including a review of autopsy results, determined that underlying medical conditions were the cause of death, and not the vaccine.

Safety profile of different vaccines

Campaigns are using nonadjuvanted inactivated vaccines, adjuvanted inactivated vaccines, and live attenuated vaccines. No differences in the safety profile of severe adverse events among different vaccines have been detected to date.

Although intense monitoring of vaccine safety continues, all data compiled to date indicate that pandemic vaccines match the excellent safety profile of seasonal influenza vaccines, which have been used for more than 60 years.


4,593 posted on 11/20/2009 11:13:58 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm191479.htm

Fresh & Easy Neighborhood Market Issues Allergy Alert on Undeclared Pecans in Mislabeled Fresh & Easy Pumpkin Cheesecake Pies

Contact:
Brendan Wonnacott
Office: (916) 554-3466
Cell: (310) 384-3833

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE — El Segundo, CA - November 19, 2009 – Fresh & Easy Neighborhood Market is voluntarily recalling some fresh&easy™ “Pumpkin Cheesecake Pies” (40 oz.) because they may contain undeclared pecans. Individuals who have allergies to pecans run the risk of serious or life-threatening allergic reaction if they consume these products.

The recalled product was sold in Fresh & Easy Neighborhood Market stores in California, Nevada and Arizona.

The recall was initiated after it was discovered that a limited number of the fresh&easy™ “Pumpkin Cheesecake Pies” (UPC 5051379033712) were labeled with plain fresh&easy™ “Pumpkin Pie” labels (UPC 5051379008628), which do not declare the presence of pecans. The mislabeled fresh&easy™ Pumpkin Cheesecake pies all carry an “Enjoy by” date of NOV 21 and have been removed from all Fresh & Easy stores.

The fresh&easy™ “Pumpkin Cheesecake Pie” has a crumb topping containing pecans. fresh&easy™ “Pumpkin Cheesecake Pies” which are accurately labeled are not affected by the recall. (see picture of incorrectly labeled product attached)

Customers may return the unused product, empty product containers or present the receipt as proof of purchase of the recalled product to any Fresh & Easy store for a full refund. Consumers who have questions or concerns about this recall should contact the Fresh & Easy 24-hour toll free number at 1 (800) 648-8622.

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4,594 posted on 11/20/2009 11:19:54 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm191482.htm

Service Smoked Fish Corp. Recalls Smoked Nova Salmon Because of Possible Health Risk

Contact:
Service Smoked Fish Corp.
718-388-4067

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE — November 19, 2009 - Service Smoked Fish Corp. of Brooklyn, NY, is recalling specific “Use-By” dates and lot codes of Brooklyn’s BEST brand SMOKED NOVA SALMON because they have the potential to be contaminated with Listeria monocytogenes, an organism which can cause serious and sometimes fatal infections in young children, frail or elderly people, and others with weakened immune systems. Although healthy individuals may possibly suffer only short-term symptoms such as high fever, severe headache, stiffness, nausea, abdominal pain and diarrhea, Listeria infection can cause miscarriages and stillbirths among pregnant women.

Smoked Nova Salmon was distributed in the greater New York area, New Jersey, Connecticut, and the areas of Baltimore, MD, Los Angeles, CA, and Portland, Oregon. Consumers may have purchased the product from retail food stores.

The Smoked Nova Salmon was vacuum-packed in clear, plastic bags of various size packages including 3 oz., 4 oz., 8 oz., 12 oz., 16 oz. and random weight sides with the brand name “Brooklyn’s BEST” appearing on a circular label inside the vacuum bag. A “Use-By” date appears on the bottom of the gold board. Units with “Use-By” dates of 12/03/09 through 12/19/09 are being recalled. The product was also air-packed in bulk boxes. Air-packed units with lot numbers 060 through 043 are being recalled. No other use-by dates or lots numbers are involved in this recall.

No illnesses have been reported to date.

The recall is the result of samplings by the Food and Drug Administration which revealed that the finished products contained the bacteria. The company has ceased the production and distribution of the product. The FDA and the company continue their investigation as to what caused the problem.

Consumers who have purchased the above “Use-By” dates or lot codes of “Brooklyn’s BEST” brand SMOKED NOVA SALMON are urged to return it to the place of purchase for a full refund. Consumers with questions may contact the company at 718-388-4067, Monday - Friday, 7 am - 3 pm.

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4,595 posted on 11/20/2009 11:22:35 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All; hennie pennie

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’?

By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: November 20th, 2009

48 Comments Comment on this article

If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start
dumping them NOW. The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global
Warming myth (aka AGW; aka ManBearPig) has been suddenly, brutally and
quite deliciously exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at
the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (aka Hadley CRU)
and released 61 megabites of confidential files onto the internet.
(Hat tip: Watts Up With That)

When you read some of those files - including 1079 emails and 72
documents - you realise just why the boffins at Hadley CRU might have
preferred to keep them confidential. As Andrew Bolt puts it, this
scandal could well be “the greatest in modern science”. These alleged
emails - supposedly exchanged by some of the most prominent scientists
pushing AGW theory - suggest:

Conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly
illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance
to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in
their public claims and much more.

One of the alleged emails has a gentle gloat over the death in 2004 of
John L Daly (one of the first climate change sceptics, founder of the
Still Waiting For Greenhouse site), commenting:

“In an odd way this is cheering news.”

But perhaps the most damaging revelations - the scientific equivalent
of the Telegraph’s MPs’ expenses scandal - are those concerning the
way Warmist scientists may variously have manipulated or suppressed
evidence in order to support their cause.

continued.


4,596 posted on 11/20/2009 11:57:39 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://www.newswithviews.com/NWV-News/news172.htm

INTERNATIONALISTS PUSH FOR THE CREATION OF WORLD SPY AGENCY

By NWV News writer Jim Kouri
Posted 1:00 AM Eastern
November 20, 2009
C 2009 NewsWithViews.com

Recently, President Barack Obama named Chuck Hagel, a left-leaning
Republican, as co-chair of his Intelligence Advisory Board. Although a
leader in the GOP, Hagel developed a close relationship with Obama during
his presidential campaign. Reportedly both men are Internationalists with
some observers claiming they are more concerned with foreign nations than
their own country and its people.

snipped.......

Meanwhile officials unveiled a United Kingdom government security plan
examined by reporters from the London-based Daily Telegraph, several
countries — U.S., U.K., France, Germany, etc. — would submit classified
information into a central intelligence unit so that any member nation will
have access to it.

snipped.......

It is also suggests that the European Gendarmerie Force (EGF), which
currently only involves France, Italy, Spain, Portugal and the Netherlands,
should become an EU body.

The latest proposal will step up pressure on the UK

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/11/army-eyes-missiles-filled-with-flying-spy-bots/

to allow the deployment of armed foreign police officers intp
Britain during a “crisis” situations, including public order disturbances at
international summits.

Other proposals include the formation of a paramilitary police force which
can be deployed by a Brussels “mission command” in international hotspots
outside the EU’s borders.

continued.......


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[Is this a new plan or a part of the one to restrict our gardening?
granny]

http://www.google.com/search?q=Livable+Communities+Act+Would+Give+Feds+New+Power+Over+Cities&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

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The Dana Show
Watch the second installment: Urban Nightmare: Livable Communities Act Would Give Feds New Power over Cities. from Election 2012, Feminism, Liberals ...
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Media Sharks Attack ‘Cuda, So What’s Behind the Palin Smears? «
Nov 19, 2009 ... Nightmare: Livable Communities Act Would Give Feds New Power over Cities ... Stimulus Spent Over $617k in Non-Existent Missouri District ...
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User profile « uberVU
HukiBuki : Urban Nightmare: Livable Communities Act Would Give Feds New Power over Cities. Thursday on PJTV’s TRIFECTA http://www.PJTV.com ...
www.ubervu.com/profile/HukiBuki/twitter/ - 19 hours ago


http://www.google.com/search?q=Sen.+Chris+Dodd%27s+Livable+Communities+Act&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

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Dodd Announces Initiative to Coordinate Housing, Transportation ...
Aug 6, 2009 ... Senator Dodd in Action ... The Livable Communities Act will: ... U.S. Senator Chris Dodd 448 Russell Building | Washington D.C., 20510 ...
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Transportation and Infrastructure | U.S. Senator Christopher J. Dodd
Senator Dodd has authored the Livable Communities Act, which would help ... U.S. Senator Chris Dodd 448 Russell Building | Washington D.C., 20510 ...
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Show more results from dodd.senate.gov
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Partnership for Strong Communities - Sen. Dodd Introduces Livable ...
August 18, 2009 — Introduced by Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) on August 6, The Livable Communities Act is designed to help local communities plan for and create ...
www.ctpartnershiphousing.com/index.php?option=com... - Cached
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Open House: NHC Applauds Senator Dodd’s Introduction of the ...
NHC Applauds Senator Dodd’s Introduction of the Livable Communities Act of 2009 ... Housing and Urban Affairs Committee by Chairman Chris Dodd and committee ...
www.nhcopenhouse.org/.../nhc-applauds-us-senates-introduction-of.html - Cached
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Legislative Brief: Livable Communities Act of 2009
Livable Communities Act of 2009 (S. 1619) - Establishes in the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) an Office ... Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-CT) ...
www.preservationnation.org › ... › Advocacy Center › Legislative Briefs - Cached
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Dodd Introduces Livable Communities Act - Jonathan Kantrowitz ...
Aug 7, 2009 ... Chris Dodd has introduced legislation to help towns and regions ... Senator Dodd’s proposed Livable Communities Act represents a major step ...
blog.ctnews.com/.../2009/.../dodd-introduces-livable-communities-act/ - Cached

[Of course both have lots of other links ...granny]


4,598 posted on 11/20/2009 12:45:38 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All; DelaWhere

http://wattsupwiththat.com/

An interesting science blog, climate and many other subjects.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-news-story-hadley-cru-has-apparently-been-hacked-hundreds-of-files-released/

Breaking News Story: CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released
19 11 2009

UPDATE: Response from CRU in interview with another website, see end of this post.

The details on this are still sketchy, we’ll probably never know what went on. But it appears that University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit has been hacked and many many files have been released by the hacker or person unknown.

UPDATED: Original image was for Met Office – corrected This image source: www.cru.uea.ac.uk

I’m currently traveling and writing this from an airport, but here is what I know so far:

An unknown person put postings on some climate skeptic websites that advertised an FTP file on a Russian FTP server, here is the message that was placed on the Air Vent today:

We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to
be kept under wraps.

We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents

The file was large, about 61 megabytes, containing hundreds of files.

It contained data, code, and emails from Phil Jones at CRU to and from many people.

I’ve seen the file, it appears to be genuine and from CRU. Others who have seen it concur- it appears genuine. There are so many files it appears unlikely that it is a hoax. The effort would be too great.

Here is some of the emails just posted at Climate Audit on this thread:

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7801#comments

I’ve redacted email addresses and direct phone numbers for the moment. The emails all have US public universities in the email addresses, making them public/FOIA actionable I believe.

[Interesting and so are the 900 comments...LOL
granny]


4,599 posted on 11/20/2009 1:47:59 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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4,600 posted on 11/20/2009 2:18:58 PM PST by hennie pennie
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