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Study: Teachers choose schools according to student race
University of Chicago Press Journals ^ | May 27, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 05/27/2009 6:41:58 AM PDT by decimon

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To: KSCITYBOY

My wife teaches in an inner-city elementary school that is in one the worst areas of the city. The surrounding area is a body-dump zone, to give you an idea.

In her school, and another she taught at, the minority administrators were run over rough-shod by the Black PANTHERS teaching in the school.

EVERYTHING becomes a race issue for these teachers, and it creates an adversarial environment. (In a school that is 60% black, 35% hispanic, 5% white)

The Panther Teachers (and the Wanna be’s) are too busy pushing a Black-centric POLITCAL AGENDA, and getting all they can for THEMSELVES, to care much about what happens to the students under thier charge. They push the white teachers, AND the black administrators to the point that everyone is afraid to say or do anything, and nothing gets done.

Luckily, my wife has learned to stand against them when they play the Race Card, and isn’t afraid to remind them that SHE, TOO, is a minority (American Indian) when they start that crap. And it always stops them in thier tracks, because they don’t know how to react to it.

Several of the worst are set to retire this year and next, so hopefully it will calm down soon.


61 posted on 05/27/2009 7:20:13 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

As tuition goes up so does the problem.

MEant to say:

As the tuition goes UP the prblem goes AWAY.

They leave.

At each grade level the tuition goes up.

Too often parents expect SCHOOLS and TEACHERS to raise their kids. It doesn’t work that way.


62 posted on 05/27/2009 7:20:18 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

I think you mentioned several key factors for success. In particular “the parents back the teachers up”.
Good observations


63 posted on 05/27/2009 7:21:19 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: tcrlaf

I give your wife credit.

I pray for her continued success.

Kids NEED teachers like her!


64 posted on 05/27/2009 7:21:40 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: decimon

Teachers choose schools according to personal safety. The race part is incidental to this, as 17% of the population commits 50% + of the crime. Need a slide rule?


65 posted on 05/27/2009 7:21:42 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: shag377
But, by most on this board, I am a fool for doing what I feel called to do, with the students that I choose to work with.

SOME on this board. Just the most vocal ones.

66 posted on 05/27/2009 7:21:53 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Altura Ct.

They did not take race out of the equation in this study. Skin color is not the issue. Culture, fatherlessness, etc ARE the issue.


67 posted on 05/27/2009 7:23:16 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: tcrlaf
Luckily, my wife has learned to stand against them when they play the Race Card, and isn’t afraid to remind them that SHE, TOO, is a minority (American Indian) when they start that crap. And it always stops them in thier tracks, because they don’t know how to react to it.

Good for her.

68 posted on 05/27/2009 7:27:05 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: brytlea
"Culture, fatherlessness, etc ARE the issue."

Culture? What culture? You mean black culture?

And the fact they happen to be black has nothing to with it unless of course they are whining about being "discriminated" against. Then race matters...How does that work again?

69 posted on 05/27/2009 7:27:41 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: nmh

“OTOH, the Bush girls went to PUBLIC schools.”

In Midland...You can bet your grandmother’s silverware that they would not have gone to government school in D.C.


70 posted on 05/27/2009 7:28:24 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: brytlea

Being “Black” — culturally black — is indeed a significant part of this issue.

That’s why all black schools worked so well back a hundred years ago. Because in those schools “being Black” was defined as being a good, disciplined student.

For the past fifty years “being Black” was come to be defined as being the ever-victim, never acting like a white or a Tom. Always showing some diss to authority, especially when teh authority is not Black or Tom.


71 posted on 05/27/2009 7:29:50 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

typo- “Always showing some diss to authority, especially when the authority is not a Black or is a Tom.”


72 posted on 05/27/2009 7:30:51 AM PDT by bvw
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To: decimon

Is it possible that teachers are relucant to seek contracts in schools where they risk getting shot, stabbed, raped, or assaulted? And is it a coincidence that so many of those schools have high percentages of “minority students?”


73 posted on 05/27/2009 7:32:30 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: shag377; SoftballMominVA; Amelia; leda; metmom

The Dem primary for Governor of Virginia is in 2 weeks. One of the candidates is Terry McAuliffe -— he has been running an ad in this part of the state (I don’t know about other areas) that claims VA determines the number of prison cells that will be needed in 15 years by the failure rate of 3rd graders. I thought I heard it wrong the first time the ad ran, but it has been running so often that I now have it practically memorized.

We live in a high poverty, rural area. The student population of my daughter’s elementary school is primarily black and hispanic. Unfortunately, from what I am learning, the even handed “expect the same from everyone regardless of race” attitude prevalent in the school does not continue into the middle school.


74 posted on 05/27/2009 7:33:37 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: achilles2000

You don’t have to run from the Mexicans in the Midland school district.


75 posted on 05/27/2009 7:33:53 AM PDT by Married with Children
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To: shag377

I don’t think you’re a fool...but I do think that it is unusual that you are allowed by the administration to show “tough love” or that there is enough discipline in the school for you to function effectively. I know a lot of teachers who would like to do what you are doing but the bureaucrats make it impossible...they also make it dangerous to work in their schools.


76 posted on 05/27/2009 7:34:00 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: bvw

And th echances of your recommendations being adopted are...;-)


77 posted on 05/27/2009 7:37:13 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: theDentist
Exactly.

Teacher effectiveness, as measured by teachers' previous ability to improve student test scores, decreased in the black inflow schools as well.

Student test scores do not increase SOLELY because of the skill of a teacher, so a fundamental premise of this survey is undermined. After all, its possible from these results to posit that an increased proportion of minorities reduce teacher effectiveness.

78 posted on 05/27/2009 7:39:13 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: decimon

A personal note - I taught for four years in a small, Catholic school in No VA. I found I had an aptitude for teaching, loved kids and made a difference. So I thought I’d eventually try to teach in an inner-city school (Norfolk, VA) to see if I could help in some way kids who really need it. I went back to school (Regent Univ - Pat Robertson’s place) and worked hard in a Master’s program and did well. That is until I got into it with another “teacher” taking an on-line course over EBONICS of all stupid things. I said ebonics had no place in schooling - our job was to prepare these kids to function optimally in society so they could achieve as much as possible. I was called a RACIST and after sending this person’s comments to everyone in the chain of command (including Robertson’s office), I was chastised by the dean! My prof ripped me too for putting up a fight. SO, screw the inner city schools, screw Regent Univ and Robertson and if I go back to teaching, it will be at a private and/or faith-based school where I won’t get called a racist when considering the good of the kids - and they wonder why their community and culture is all messed up! Tell it to Oprah!!!!!!


79 posted on 05/27/2009 7:39:58 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: decimon

It’s all about culture. Do the students want to learn?

Are teachers fleeing districts that have an influx of Asian students???


80 posted on 05/27/2009 7:41:04 AM PDT by PGR88
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