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Study: Teachers choose schools according to student race
University of Chicago Press Journals ^ | May 27, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 05/27/2009 6:41:58 AM PDT by decimon

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To: decimon

Captain Obvious - please pick up the white courtesy phone!


41 posted on 05/27/2009 7:01:54 AM PDT by CTOCS (Some people drink from the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.)
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To: BenLurkin
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42 posted on 05/27/2009 7:02:55 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: shag377
You're not a fool. You're an anomaly and doing something right that reaches these kids. Keep it up!
43 posted on 05/27/2009 7:03:27 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: decimon
high-quality teachers tend to leave schools that experience inflows of black students

LOL Ya think? Gee, I wonder why?

44 posted on 05/27/2009 7:04:19 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Here’s a hypothesis. There are far fewer black students who have a father at home. This causes more behavioral problems and less academic ambition. Good teachers attempt to find classrooms with academically ambitious, well behaved kids.


45 posted on 05/27/2009 7:04:21 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: TurtleUp

Can’t promise that. Half my posting is done with him on my lap or circling the monitor.


46 posted on 05/27/2009 7:04:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: decimon
Just what it is about black students that pushes high-quality teachers away is hard to pin down, Dr. Jackson says. It could be that teachers are reacting to notions about black students' achievement or income levels.

Absolutely ignorant and clueless. Three days of teaching in real classrooms would tell the tale, yet the researchers are stumped! Willful ignorance because of political correctness.

Eighty percent, 80%, of black students are without real Dads. They arrive at school with almost internal discipline. It is a constant strenuous effort to maintain any discipline in such classes. It is the broken family that is the biggest factor, but race factors too.

Blacks are taught by cultural clues, constant and incessant that they are victims. The state of being a victims is intrinsically an irresponsible state. By cultural clues blacks are taught that irresponsible behaviors are "Black".

In such classrooms the teacher, any teacher, becomes exhausted or just a constant reactionary disciplinarian. In either case not much teaching gets done. Teachers with a pride in being able to teach with almost no exceptions leave to districts and schools where the students have self-discipline and the culture encourages such self-discipline.

What is the cure? Outlaw bastardy and start prosecuting it. Legalize drugs -- many fathers are jailbirds. Jail any man who fathers a child until he marries the mom.

Hire disciplinarians, not teachers. Behavior modifiers. The level of teaching doesn't require teachers in these schools -- but the students need to learn discipline. Most of the effort and school day must be spent teaching self-discipline, proper decorum in the classroom. Only when the student is capable of sitting at a desk for ninety minutes on task, without a single disruption is it useful to move them to real classrooms.

When should this start? Third grade!

I've subbed in a number of districts at all grade levels. This is what I saw, this is what I have learned, this is what I think is the only way to recover the our next generation.

47 posted on 05/27/2009 7:04:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“Teachers avoid combat zones, this shouldn’t be a mystery!”

I know. They act like it’s a big revelation that the teachers are actually concerned for their own safety!


48 posted on 05/27/2009 7:05:21 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: Politically Correct
"...Because there’s nothing more frustrating to a teacher than students that don’t want to learn...

AND who call you a white devil,

AND who attempt to stab you in the hallway with homemade stabbing implements.

49 posted on 05/27/2009 7:05:22 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (A: Nothing, you already told her twice.)
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To: Politically Correct

I think they should do a study, take race out of the equation and see if there’s not some other factor or factors involved. I can tell you, as a teacher, I wanted first, a SAFE environment in which to teach, and after that came things like willing students, good discipline, a good administration, etc.


50 posted on 05/27/2009 7:06:03 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: bvw
Typo fix: "They arrive at school with almost no internal discipline"
51 posted on 05/27/2009 7:06:03 AM PDT by bvw
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To: decimon
Having known & discussed this with a few teachers here is what I have heard: Minority administrators treat white teachers like crap, giving bad grades brings naming calling and blame from the parents, physical harm is a real concern, frustration of working in a environment where education isn't valued by the students or the parents (and sometimes the admin). Etc...
52 posted on 05/27/2009 7:07:06 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: decimon

Well, I certainly don’t see this in my kids’ school...we have a mix of white, black, Hispanic, and Asian students, and it doesn’t seem to affect teacher performance...then again, it’s a PRIVATE school, and they actually make the students behave, and the parents back the teachers up.


53 posted on 05/27/2009 7:09:03 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Arkansas resident of Hoosier upbringing--Yankee with a southern twang)
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To: BenLurkin

54 posted on 05/27/2009 7:09:33 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: bvw

Self control is not just a problem for “blacks”.

Look at ADULTS!

Look at some of these cop shows.

Yes, the criminals are not only dumb but more and more commit acts. Kids get ideas from this. They think it’s “cool” - especially if they can get away with it.

Blacks are often brought up to believe their “skin color” is what stops them from achieving. It doesn’t. They stop themselves because of their lack of SELF CONTROL.


55 posted on 05/27/2009 7:14:23 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: decimon
Just what it is about black students that pushes high-quality teachers away is hard to pin down, Dr. Jackson says. It could be that teachers are reacting to notions about black students' achievement or income levels.

I doubt it.

I can guess, but I'm not going there.

56 posted on 05/27/2009 7:14:54 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: brytlea

I think they should do a study, take race out of the equation

Really? That’s what the multicults and Marxist always insist we do. We have not been considering race for 50+ years unless of course it is to show how evil whitey is. How’s that working so far?


57 posted on 05/27/2009 7:15:34 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: decimon
Just what it is about black students that pushes high-quality teachers away is hard to pin down, Dr. Jackson says. It could be that teachers are reacting to notions about black students' achievement or income levels.

Can't find anything about how student attitudes and behavior in the classroom was factored into the study. Surely such a pertinent factor was not left out.

58 posted on 05/27/2009 7:17:50 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma
You are fortunate.

In our private school there appears to be an evolving standard based on skin color. As tuition goes up so does the problem. It's truly too bad the Principal doesn't’ get the idea that ONE STANDARD should be achievable by students of ANY skin color.

Middle and High School have different Principles and they have one standard for all. Maybe besides tuition they know this and flee. Who knows. I just know that it confuses the kids and creates a more antagonistic atmosphere.

59 posted on 05/27/2009 7:18:30 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: decimon

Teachers avoid schools in which they are most likely to be stabbed, shot, assaulted etc. Gee, talk about shocking, huh?


60 posted on 05/27/2009 7:19:37 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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