The new "Star Trek" shows us what we've lost

The Movies | 5/10/09 | Vanity

[Melas]

Sorry, but I can’t agree at all FRiend. My wife and I saw it at the movie grill the night before last, and not only did we leave the theater wowed, but the audience was simply estatic post movie.

I think you defined yourself early on when you mentioned your distates for the wildly successful “Lost”. Abrahms gets his audience and this new Trek will be a blockbuster. I hope there are many more to come with this new cast. I’m stoked at the mere possibility of sequels.

[fr_freak]

Fringe is also done by JJ Abrams. Fringe and Cloverfield have made me a fan of Abram’s work...though I don’t like Lost, but hey no one’s perfect!

Abrams seems to be hit and miss for me. I like Lost and I liked Cloverfield, but Fringe is too silly. I also tried watching "Alias" for a while, but it was too silly, also. So maybe it depends on your tolerance for cartoonishness as to whether you like his shows or not. Both "Alias" and "Fringe" just crossed over the line into severe cartoon land, while Lost, so far, retains just enough believability to keep me going (of course, a lot rides on how they explain what's going on. Since we don't know yet, I can't produce a verdict).

[Melas]

Major spoiler alert:

It made plenty of sense to me in light of the fact that the older Spock has full knowledge of Kirk’s lifetime in the other timeline.

[puroresu]

I haven't seen the new Star Trek, but my classic example of a horrible movie remake is Village of the Damned. The original was a 1960 British film with a very low budget and only one big name star (George Sanders), but they put together a captivating, creepy little sci-fi film that I still enjoy watching.

In the early 90s, John Carpenter remade the film with a huge budget, big stars, loads of special effects, and it turned out to be a complete waste of time. Political correctness galore, feminism, anti-Christian propaganda, anti-U.S. military propaganda, gratuitous violence....I saw it once and I've never had a desire to see it again.

[brwnsuga]

I saw it with my children (my husband refused to watch anyone but Shatner) I really enjoyed it. I cringed everytime **spoiler** Uhura kissed Spock, because I kept thinking “this is Sylar and he will KILL you!”

[NeoCaveman]

Uhura is reduced to the love slave of young Spock (!)

Love slave? The way she pushed him into letting her on the Enterprise showed she was at the very least his equal.

An Orion slave girl is now a Star Fleet cadet, bedding every other cadet she can find (very liberated).

That is a stretch too.

[mdmathis6]

Well, And Captain Pike did make Kirk acting first officer to Spock. The thing that some detractors seem to be missing was that Pike told Kirk in the Bar that Star Fleet had lost its edge, and newer fresh blood with high energy initiative was needed to invigorate the officer corps(not the exact words but that was what Pike was conveying) I got the sense that the Star Fleet in that time line was in danger of losing it’s edge, its purpose...at least Abrams was trying to convey that notion. The “disaster” caught Star Fleet at the ragged edge with few ships and experienced personnel to deal with it.

I beleive there were a lot of quick promotions and battlefield commissions in WW2, especially at the beginning.
The great strength of the Americans was that they responded way beyond their expected capabilities in these new rolls as a whole, as did our women on the home and factory fronts!

So I could believe an inexperienced command crew, yet imbued with drive and a sense of mission, could pull together quickly in a time of crisis, even in the 23rd century!

[NeoCaveman]

then acquiescing in Kirk’s assumption of command without the slightest right to do so even more idiotic.

Captain Pike had named him number one.

[Terpfen]

Suspension of disbelief has nothing to do with being naive or gullible as you claim. It simply refers to the viewer’s acknowledgement that they are watching fiction unfold, and that the plot line adheres less to real-world rules and more to its own internal reasoning and ruling, even if in other circumstances that reasoning would be bizarre and unbelievable.

Narrative justification for producing a work that depicts a span of hours, days, weeks, months, or even years in a mere 2 hours is not naive or gullible.

[JoJo Gunn]

Is there anything as breathtakingly stupid as the scene in Independence Day, where a woman holding a kid outruns an explosion in a tunnel?

[libertarian27]

Did you watch the Russian cam version too? lol:)

[traderrob6]

IMO bizarre reasoning but I guess if it works for you...

[Mr. Blonde]

Ricardo Montelban had more dramatic flair in one finger than the current bad-guy actor (Eric Bana) has in his entire body. He’s a menacing as your junior high school guidance counselor.

I find this hard to believe. Actually the rest of the review too as this is the first I have heard bad about the movie. It is at 96% on Rotten Tomatoes right now with 226 reviews. That is unheard of for most movies on there, and especially for a wide release summer tent pole. In addition I have yet to have a friend dislike it. Most have put it as the best they have seen in the last year.

But back on topic, Eric Bana is an excellent actor. He is usually the best part of the movies he is in, and he has made some bad films worth watching.

[Norman Arbuthnot]

I’m a life long Star Trek and still fan and I agree with many of your points. I enjoyed the new Star Trek, but thought it should have been more faithful to the TOS canon. I gave this new version of ST a 7 out of 10 on IMDB.

[Revolting cat!]

If Communist faggot Hollywood produces trash, on which point we all agree, why should anyone expect anything other than that in Star Trek Wars?

I woulds like to read a thoughtful, conservative review of this entertainment vehicle product, yes, product, and how it illustrates and betrays the infantile utopian Leftist politics of the Hollyweird crowd, because you know very well that it does!

Thank you all for boycotting Hollywood products!

[Tatze]

Perhaps “old Spock” can go back forward in time and fix his mistake there-bye correcting the timelines and fixing the Federation the way it should have remained...

Didn't you see Back to the Future? Spock would be going forward to the future of the alternate timeline, which is pointless. He would need to go back prior to the Kelvin incident (the point where the timeline splits) and somehow stop Nero at that point.

[Terpfen]

No, bizarre is attempting to apply promotion requirements and traditions of the US armed forces to a sci-fi movie taking place hundreds of years in the future, as happens in the thread-starting review.

[Eaker]

iguana mask.

That was a mask?

Talk about spoilers!

[Oztrich Boy]

Well, GA Custer was promoted directly from first lieutenant to brigadier general at the age of 23,

Three words: Little Big Horn.

[rlmorel]

"...You want a story - read moby dick ..."

Or watch Ricardo Montalban in "The Wrath of Khan"...:)