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Windows 7 May Not Be Much Faster Than Vista
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Posted on 05/07/2009 8:03:40 PM PDT by Gomez

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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

Ubuntu 9.04 faster than 8.10? I just recently switched from Kubuntu to Xubuntu...


21 posted on 05/08/2009 6:51:55 AM PDT by sionnsar ((Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Also sprach Telethustra" - NonValueAdded)
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To: CodeToad
I'm running XP on my primary business desktop with 2.4Ghz Dual Core + 4GB memory with no problems. In addition, for business travel my older laptop and recently purchased Mini-9 netbook run XP.

What reason or incentive do I have to "upgrade" to W7?

22 posted on 05/08/2009 6:54:56 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
I have a 3 year old Dell that I just put Ubuntu 9.04 on with the new ext4 filesystem. It now boots from the bios to a sign-on in 15 sec, and from password to usable screen in another 10. I'm amazed.

Yes, I have been trying out Ubuntu 9.04 as a virtual machine and it is nice.

23 posted on 05/08/2009 7:01:12 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

What don’t you like about it in Vista?


24 posted on 05/08/2009 7:05:53 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: Gomez

Fairly bogus story. Many of the slashdot boys take it to task:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1225563


25 posted on 05/08/2009 7:10:50 AM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: snowsislander

Can my MS-Office 2003 software run on Ubunto?


26 posted on 05/08/2009 8:16:07 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: KoRn
God, I hope Windows 7 isn’t just a repackaged Vista.

Win7 is Vista SP3

27 posted on 05/08/2009 8:32:14 AM PDT by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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To: newfreep

If you upgrade you MIGHT find more friendly features. Things might be a tad easier. I use XP and have no desire to move unless there is a compelling reason.


28 posted on 05/08/2009 8:49:04 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Gomez

After I bought a Visduh laptop, saw what a pig it was, and sold it quick, my wife and I upgraded our aging machines with 2 new desktops and a new laptop at bargain prices from Dell Outlet, a few months b4 XP went bye-bye. So we are good to go for 4-5 more years.

We also recently started using the free Safari browser for PC. It’s a free beta download, works great, and the reason we are switching over to it is that it renders web pages much much faster than IE. Do a search, download it, and give it a go — the increased speed is very very noticeable from IE.

After our XP machines wear down, we’ll see if M-soft is offering a decent OS. If not, maybe a used Mac (new ones are way too expensive for my blood). Yes, yes — and Linux will be a possibility. I have the G1 Android phone (Android is Linux based) and love it.


29 posted on 05/08/2009 12:05:18 PM PDT by webschooner
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To: Gomez
I don't care about the benchmarks.

One reason people like OS X so much better, and that it seems faster than Windows, is because Apple puts a lot of work into improving subjective performance. Those are those little quarter and half second waits you experience all the time that make the OS seem slow. Apple will sacrifice actual, benchmarked, under-the-hood performance to improve the subjective performance the user experiences. I don't use benchmarks in my daily work, I use the OS, so that's what I want to run fast.

I think MS did this a little with Windows 7, because in my experience it has far better responsiveness (subjective performance) than even XP.

30 posted on 05/08/2009 1:59:46 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
Unfortunately for the MS faithful, I've heard from some tech analysts that Win 7 is basically Vista SP3.

Close. Windows Vista is NT 6.0, and Windows 7 is NT 6.1. It's a dot release, just a bit more than a service pack. For comparison, Windows 2000 was NT 5.0 and XP was NT 5.1. Vista was built off the NT 5.2 branch, which was 64-bit XP and Server 2003.

Honestly, Vista didn't deserve a whole number release, NT 5.3 would have sufficed. It was planned to be much more that would have deserved such a release, but Microsoft scaled it way back. Development had already been going for five years with nothing to show for it yet, so they had to release something.

31 posted on 05/08/2009 2:05:38 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: TChris
With the exception of the Loony Toons default color scheme, I think XP is better than 2K in every way.

Say as of SP2 and we agree. Except I call it the Crayola color scheme. I immediately downgrade to the 2K scheme or switch to the silver scheme whenever I get on an XP box.

32 posted on 05/08/2009 2:07:53 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: VeniVidiVici
I don’t expect speed increases from operating systems but from hardware and drivers.

You haven't been using a Mac. Every OS X release makes things run "snappier" on the same hardware. I upgraded from Tiger to Leopard (in place upgrade!) and I'm happy about the speed improvement, and I can't wait to extend the life of my iMac even further by installing Snow Leopard.

33 posted on 05/08/2009 2:11:20 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: newfreep
What reason or incentive do I have to "upgrade" to W7?

Download and install the free RC and see for yourself. You may find it worth the upgrade, you may not. Either way you're not out anything.

34 posted on 05/08/2009 2:12:54 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
If one downloads W7 to "upgrade" from XP, I have 2 questions:

1. Do I need to do a clean install and reformat the hard drive?
2. Can I "upgrade" back to XP easily?

35 posted on 05/08/2009 2:37:20 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: newfreep

You should either wipe your system or dual-boot. An in-place upgrade is not a good idea, and you can’t downgrade afterwards.


36 posted on 05/08/2009 3:49:44 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: ShadowAce

Guess we’ll find out. I’m downloading RC now.


37 posted on 05/08/2009 5:38:08 PM PDT by pctech
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To: antiRepublicrat

So, how does Apple make succeeding versions faster?

I bought a Mini when they first came out. I upgraded the memory and hard drive as soon as I could as Apple went as small and as slow as they could on both. Performance was a little better after that but nothing to put a smile on my face.

Now as it’s an antique with a PowerPC chip I can’t even throw a new processor in it. It would be a door stop but occasionally need it to run some Mac client stuff with.

And don’t *even* plan on using one of those old Minis as a Folding client.


38 posted on 05/08/2009 8:39:27 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Sprechen sie Austrian? Happy Cinco de Quatro!)
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To: VeniVidiVici
So, how does Apple make succeeding versions faster?

Basically, lots of optimization, not even counting better leveraging of the GPU.

Now as it’s an antique with a PowerPC chip I can’t even throw a new processor in it.

The platform switch did nail some people. I'd been following the ups and downs of PPC for years, and refused to buy a Mac until they had processors on par with Intel and AMD, plus a good OS. When the PPC was better, the OS sucked (OS 9). Then OS X was out and good, but they had at most the G5 and the software wasn't optimized for it (the PPC970 requires a lot of specific software optimization to reach its potential). The perfect storm came when they released the aluminum Intel iMac with Tiger. Then I upgraded to Leopard and the speed boost did put a smile on my face.

39 posted on 05/08/2009 8:54:56 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: pctech

I just finished setting up the RC in a VM on the Mac. Still more responsive than XP, and a bit more stable than the beta. Unfortunately I’m still seeing through the lipstick.

And what utter moron decided that UAC and prompts to install apps should disable the whole UI? I’d hoped they’d fix this by now.


40 posted on 05/08/2009 8:58:03 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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