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Help Needed to Combat Left Wing Propaganda
April 15, 2009 | Robert Reich

Posted on 04/18/2009 6:42:54 AM PDT by gdzla

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To: gdzla

Ah, the “logic” of the left. These are the same people who argue that the 2nd amendment should be overturned because so many other nations don’t allow gun ownership. And we shouldn’t have been upset by 4.00/gallon gasoline. Other countries rates are much higher.


21 posted on 04/18/2009 7:54:11 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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All his points are loaded and full of non sequitur. A short reply, not academic, just a rebuttal to his ideology.

1. The United States was established to get away from the Divine Right of Kingship and have the individual actually govern themselves. This Country arose out of the Age of Reason and it's make-up was a combination of certain Greek Poleis (Pericles' Athens was a big influence), Roman Republic, and religious pluralism (Christian/Judea pluralism at that).

The collectivist scream the "right to privacy" but when it comes to the government invading a person's "privacy" by forcing to look into their income, the Statist become one big elite hypocrites.

Also the United States, due to a lower tax rate, can expand our GDP/economy which enables us to pay for a superior military which those other socialist States can't. We propped up NATO, police the world when they come crying to the US, and enable all these other socialist countries to continue their assault on the individual which Reich welcomes to our shores.

2. The rich do pay too much. So much so they take their ball and go offshore. Also, another loaded disingenuous example. It's not the rich/wealthy Reich, it's the INCOME earners especially the small business owner that gets raped (Especially when money INFLATES you ignoramus).

Also, since Reich absolutely ignores inflation/deflation, the ATM is about to to some serious harm, let's see if it's just the "rich" Reich. Hey Reich, what happened when Reagan cut the rates and your King in the 90's cut the capital gains tax. By the way, Ike was an elitist just like you:

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid." Ike was just like you, a collectivist who enjoys being with the elites.

3. Again, the assault on the individual is at full swing, I bet your Brandy taste so much better with the peons being taxed to hell. It's about control, right Reich and whoever swallows his crap and hyperbolic name calling.

4. Will he let the Bush tax cuts expire? Obama is engaging in deferred taxation to all who the dumbasses who swallow Reich's stuff. The elites know all this yet the useful idiots become enamored. Obama is also in the process of shifting a large % of investments from the private sector to the public bureaucracy. In short, Obama is promoting fascism which Reich masturbates profusely over due to the chance to coordinate over since he is part of the "anointed" class.

5. Inflation and interest Reich, ever hear of those you perverted would be tyrant. "...because consumers and businesses won't" is because they are being taxed to death, the taxes filtered through a corrupt, bloated bureaucracy, and wasted. Again, look what happens when tax rates being cut, Reich and all the useful idiots, this is becoming tiresome.

“To preserve independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.” A man who privately did not practice what he preached, but since we are throwing quotes around... But then again, at least he put his neck out, unlike other well protected politicians of the 20th century Reich quotes from.

6. “The maxim of buying nothing but what we had money in our pockets to pay for... (is) a maxim, which, of all others, lays the broadest foundation for happiness.” Another quote from the same person who actually stuck his neck out and who also lowered the deficit despite of making a big purchase.

I am not a patriot Reich, those who founded this Country were, but your collectivist heroes pretty much killed the idea of people who made your heroes.

These founders risked their lives for liberty, the people you quote from just reaped the benefits.

I am for the individual, Reich and his cronies are about ruling over the collective. We are hanging onto a Constitution but again, Reich thinks patriotism is all about supporting government waste, fraud, abuse, and being a slave to a bureaucracy. Go masturbate to Mussolini and Engels/Marx you power whore, I will pick up my arms and defend my freedom.

Useful idiots, go look into the intent of the General Welfare clause, Reich and his cronies flee from it but hopefully lurkers will have their minds opened up.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy; (Air Force morphed from Army Air/Naval Air as well)

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

And To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
22 posted on 04/18/2009 8:20:46 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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All guys with those opinions are short a$$ psychos with a Napoleon complex.
23 posted on 04/18/2009 8:23:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: gdzla

Somebody ought to toss this midget.


24 posted on 04/18/2009 8:26:12 AM PDT by Walmartian
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