V-shaped UFOs in NM photos

a LOT more than have been published.

I met the fellow who’s researched it for 10 years.

An MD happened to have a 35mm motion picture camera set up and got some interesting shots.

That’s a very interesting flyover—from up near Utah down to Tucson. It was not just in Phoenix.

And an airline pilot who was flying his small personal plane above the UFO—not directly above it but near enough and higher than . . . noted that

HE COULD HAVE LANDED HIS AIRLINER ON TOP OF THE UFO—IT WAS THAT BIG.

WOW!

An interesting contribution.

Credit where credit is due!

It was a bunch of typical undefined blobs, (”they only come out at night”) and it turned out to be a hoax. Balloons and flares.

You said — “It was a bunch of typical undefined blobs, (”they only come out at night”) and it turned out to be a hoax. Balloons and flares.”

Now, I haven’t kept up with these kinds of things and reports and so on. So, that’s why I ask the questions. But, the thing I was getting at here, is that I did see newspaper reports afterwards and people’s comments on it (but not so much in the way of pictures). So, I was trying to “match up” the massive sighting that a lot of people saw (over a period of time and quite a distance, according to many different people) — and see if “pictures” matched with what people *actually saw*.

What I did see in the reports from people who spoke about it, and there were *many* who did — it couldn’t have been flares and balloons, because I read numerous accounts from people that said the “thing” (whatever it was) moved slowly overhead and blocked out starlight behind it’s shape (being “massive”) and then slowly passed overhead. This seemed to come from several.

So, that just doesn’t match balloons and flares.

And so, here’s the thing, if people were seeing what they were reporting — then where are all the pictures? That’s what I’m wondering... It’s not that I’m doubting their personal reports, because they obviously did see what they were reporting. It’s just that I’m wondering what happened to all the cameras, like you were saying...

*

The only pictures I personally saw were the stereotypical blobs. Cameras still aren’t that good at night, but what of radar sightings? Thermal imaging?

As for something so huge that it blotted out the stars? Who knows? I know it’s almost impossible to judge size and distance of an unknown in the night sky. If you can hear the airplane, then you have an idea of how big it is, but likely not how high. A meteor, on the other hand? Was it 10 miles high from the horizon or 100? A hundred miles from you or 500?

And I think of what passes for mass “entertainment” in this world, and I wonder how many of those who claimed they saw the UFO’s also watch TV or wanted to cash in on the “needle in the Pepsi can” craze, know what I mean?

It’s been a long while since I read those reports from that sighting. So, I would have to go back and look it up again (which I’m sure I could find it again). But, from my memory of what many people said — it was slow moving (very slow, maybe covering the sky in perhaps 20-30 minutes, just an impression from what I can remember), large and overhead (I get the impression that they were talking about not more than 10,000 feet up, maybe less), not making noise, massive in size - blocking out starlight (which is how they could tell the size) and then simply going on past.

Any more than that, I would have to get the reports (wherever they may be now). This was seen by so many people that it became a “city-wide sensation” in the news (for them). It didn’t hit the national press until much later for some reason.

That’s as much as I can say for now..., just doing it from memory, and my memory could be all wrong, too (in terms of little details, but not the “overall story”).

“It’s a mouse-shaped UFO!”

"Cameras still aren’t that good at night, but what of radar sightings? Thermal imaging?"

Trevor James Constable's 1957 Amoeboid Bioform 'Critter'

....it was slow moving (very slow, maybe covering the sky in perhaps 20-30 minutes....

Alright, stop right there and use your instincts.

Imagine that happening over a large city like Phoenix for such an amount of time, time enough for everyone to literally be out in the streets looking at it, time enough to scramble the military jets, to have every news cameraman aimed at it, and most certainly ("we're on in 10 seconds!") to have every single solitary Botoxed mannequin fighting each other to get at that anchor desk....

I'd have to dogpile.com to track down the Real Estate agent who's researched so much of it for over 10 years. His presentation is quite good. And, there's a documentary movie or some such out on it. IIRC, the researcher said that most folks were reluctant to share their photos because they didn't want the hassles--neither from the notoriety nor from the government. However, the researcher and the documentary maker had tracked down some interesting photos. I think they are available on the net. The flares came out around 22:00 or some such--quite obviously as a government disinformation stunt that failed miserably for anyone with any brains. IIRC, the shots from the MD's 35 mm movie camera were analyized quite extensively. And when compared with the shots of the flares--there was nothing similar except that they were different types of lights. The UFO lights were quite of a different color composition and rock steady in alignment etc. etc. etc. The flares much later in the night acted like . . . well . . . flares! DOH. That is, they were lit for varying lengths of time. They did not stay in alignment the least bit. There was flickering etc. etc. etc. The 911 call center management tried--evidently after being given orders to do so--insist that there weren't many calls. However, the WORKERS at the center--some of whom were interviewed--insisted that they were swamped for an extended period of time. I forget how long. A reliable guesstimate by folks researching the call center and other info was that there were more than 10,000 witnesses. Certainly it's plausible that from 10,000 witnesses there would be some good shots. It's somewhat similar to the Chicago airport UFO . . . there were a dozen or so folks seen in the parking lot--most of them taking photos with various kinds of cameras and cell phones. Virtually none of them have surfaced. Those shots would have been in broad daylight and not that far away from a rather large UFO. That Real Estate agent has a website. I reported on his stuff when I reported on the Aztec conference that year. I don't recall if it was last year or the year before. Let me see if I can dig him up . . . Here's a good website with a good opening shot: http://www.ufocasebook.com/phoenixlights.html This would enable an estimate of the craft being a whopping one mile or more in length! The color of its lights were described as "blue-white," to "yellow-white," to "amber." Again, these differences of description do not necessitate there being more than one object. During the crafts fast moving period, it was estimated to be moving at Mach 2-3. As it slowed down as if posing to be filmed, the speed dropped to an estimated 10-15 MPH. At one point over Sky Harbor, it reportedly hovered for several minutes. The object was also reported to change shapes, speeds, and colors, as it made its way across the skies of Arizona. Between 9:00 and 9:30 PM on the 13th, one extraordinary description was made by a family in Mesa. They said that an enormous craft with a distinctive structure flew over their area. They described a triangle-shaped object with lights at the three corners, and another larger light in its center. Amazingly, they could clearly see panels on the craft which were in a grid pattern. There were also, about this same time, several reports of two round objects which seemed to detach from the larger "V" shaped object, only to later rejoin the mother-ship. One witness described the "V" shaped mother-ship dividing itself into two separate craft as it moved toward the city of Tucson. Another dramatic description of the mother-ship was made by a group of real estate agents who had subdivided property over the northern part of Phoenix. They would also get a close-up view of the gigantic disc. They estimated the craft to be a staggering two miles wide as it flew at a low altitude near Phoenix. They could see dozens of bright lights along the leading edges, and also a row of windows with "silhouettes of people." It also seems highly probably that for some reason, the giant craft turned off its lights, as observers could see only the windows with what appeared to be people shadowed in the glow of the inside. Another family got a brightly lit view of the unknown object, and described its color as "flat blue-black, like the color of a shotgun barrel." Among the most reliable witnesses of the craft's movements that first night were two airplane pilots, one retired from an airline, and another from Vietnam, who was also a U. S. Marshall. Though seeing the object at different times and places, both men described a craft of "immense size," measuring up to a mile long. The Marshall could also see the city lights of Phoenix reflecting from the bottom of the massive object, while it "blocked out the stars." One of the pilots also videotaped the UFO, but had the tape confiscated in a "men in black" encounter. In a completely separate incident, a group of witnesses had reported a "huge discoid" craft which was "larger than Sun Devil Stadium at Arizona State University." This object was hovering just above tree tops at the west end of Sky Harbor runway between 2:00 and 3:00 AM about two weeks prior to March 13. Military Involvement It was almost inevitable that the United States Air Force would become involved in an event of this magnitude, and the Phoenix lights mystery would be no exception. While driving down Interstate-I-17 from Camp Verde, a truck driver had been seeing two amber colored UFOs moving ahead of him southward for two whole hours. His destination was a materials plant near Luke Air Force Base. Upon arriving there, the two UFOs hovered nearby. While his truck was being loaded, the driver walked upon a pile of materials to get a better look at the two UFOs. He could make out two identical "toy, top-like amber orbs" with a white glow to them. A band of red lights pulsated on the craft as it hovered near the Luke AFB runway. Suddenly, two F-16s "blasted out of Luke with their afterburners on full." Soon, a third plane followed, and all three made a direct run toward the hovering UFOs. As the first two jets were about to reach the UFOs, the unknown objects shot straight upward, and disappeared "in an instant." The two jets flew right through the exact spot the UFOs had previously occupied. A Luke ground crewman later confirmed to NUFORC that the driver's account was true. He also stated that upon returning to the base runway, one of the pilots had to be helped from his cockpit. He was visibly shaken from what had just happened. According to Peter Davenport of the NUFORC one of the more intriguing reports was submitted by a young man who claimed to be an Airman stationed at Luke Air Force Base, located to the west of Phoenix in Litchfield Park. He telephoned the National UFO Reporting Center at 3:20 a.m. on Friday, some eight hours after the sightings on the previous night, and reported that two USAF F-15c fighters had been �scrambled� from Luke AFB, and had intercepted one of the objects. Although the presence of F-15�s could never be confirmed, the airman provided detailed information which proved to be highly accurate, based on what investigators would reconstruct from witnesses over subsequent weeks and months. Two days after his first telephone call, the airman called to report that he had just been informed by his commander that he was being transferred to an assignment in Greenland. He has never been heard from again since that telephone call. I'll try and post more in the next post . . .

SORRY. Didn’t preview.

I’d have to dogpile.com to track down the Real Estate agent who’s researched so much of it for over 10 years. His presentation is quite good. And, there’s a documentary movie or some such out on it.

IIRC, the researcher said that most folks were reluctant to share their photos because they didn’t want the hassles—neither from the notoriety nor from the government.

However, the researcher and the documentary maker had tracked down some interesting photos.

I think they are available on the net.

The flares came out around 22:00 or some such—quite obviously as a government disinformation stunt that failed miserably for anyone with any brains.

IIRC, the shots from the MD’s 35 mm movie camera were analyized quite extensively. And when compared with the shots of the flares—there was nothing similar except that they were different types of lights.

The UFO lights were quite of a different color composition and rock steady in alignment etc. etc. etc.

The flares much later in the night acted like . . . well . . . flares! DOH.

That is, they were lit for varying lengths of time. They did not stay in alignment the least bit. There was flickering etc. etc. etc.

The 911 call center management tried—evidently after being given orders to do so—insist that there weren’t many calls. However, the WORKERS at the center—some of whom were interviewed—insisted that they were swamped for an extended period of time. I forget how long.

A reliable guesstimate by folks researching the call center and other info was that there were more than 10,000 witnesses.

Certainly it’s plausible that from 10,000 witnesses there would be some good shots.

It’s somewhat similar to the Chicago airport UFO . . . there were a dozen or so folks seen in the parking lot—most of them taking photos with various kinds of cameras and cell phones. Virtually none of them have surfaced. Those shots would have been in broad daylight and not that far away from a rather large UFO.

That Real Estate agent has a website. I reported on his stuff when I reported on the Aztec conference that year. I don’t recall if it was last year or the year before.

Let me see if I can dig him up . . .

Here’s a good website with a good opening shot:

http://www.ufocasebook.com/phoenixlights.html

This would enable an estimate of the craft being a whopping one mile or more in length! The color of its lights were described as “blue-white,” to “yellow-white,” to “amber.” Again, these differences of description do not necessitate there being more than one object. During the crafts fast moving period, it was estimated to be moving at Mach 2-3. As it slowed down as if posing to be filmed, the speed dropped to an estimated 10-15 MPH.

At one point over Sky Harbor, it reportedly hovered for several minutes. The object was also reported to change shapes, speeds, and colors, as it made its way across the skies of Arizona.

Between 9:00 and 9:30 PM on the 13th, one extraordinary description was made by a family in Mesa. They said that an enormous craft with a distinctive structure flew over their area. They described a triangle-shaped object with lights at the three corners, and another larger light in its center. Amazingly, they could clearly see panels on the craft which were in a grid pattern.

There were also, about this same time, several reports of two round objects which seemed to detach from the larger “V” shaped object, only to later rejoin the mother-ship. One witness described the “V” shaped mother-ship dividing itself into two separate craft as it moved toward the city of Tucson.

Another dramatic description of the mother-ship was made by a group of real estate agents who had subdivided property over the northern part of Phoenix. They would also get a close-up view of the gigantic disc. They estimated the craft to be a staggering two miles wide as it flew at a low altitude near Phoenix. They could see dozens of bright lights along the leading edges, and also a row of windows with “silhouettes of people.”

It also seems highly probably that for some reason, the giant craft turned off its lights, as observers could see only the windows with what appeared to be people shadowed in the glow of the inside. Another family got a brightly lit view of the unknown object, and described its color as “flat blue-black, like the color of a shotgun barrel.”

Among the most reliable witnesses of the craft’s movements that first night were two airplane pilots, one retired from an airline, and another from Vietnam, who was also a U. S. Marshall. Though seeing the object at different times and places, both men described a craft of “immense size,” measuring up to a mile long. The Marshall could also see the city lights of Phoenix reflecting from the bottom of the massive object, while it “blocked out the stars.”

One of the pilots also videotaped the UFO, but had the tape confiscated in a “men in black” encounter. In a completely separate incident, a group of witnesses had reported a “huge discoid” craft which was “larger than Sun Devil Stadium at Arizona State University.” This object was hovering just above tree tops at the west end of Sky Harbor runway between 2:00 and 3:00 AM about two weeks prior to March 13.

Military Involvement

It was almost inevitable that the United States Air Force would become involved in an event of this magnitude, and the Phoenix lights mystery would be no exception. While driving down Interstate-I-17 from Camp Verde, a truck driver had been seeing two amber colored UFOs moving ahead of him southward for two whole hours. His destination was a materials plant near Luke Air Force Base. Upon arriving there, the two UFOs hovered nearby.

While his truck was being loaded, the driver walked upon a pile of materials to get a better look at the two UFOs. He could make out two identical “toy, top-like amber orbs” with a white glow to them. A band of red lights pulsated on the craft as it hovered near the Luke AFB runway. Suddenly, two F-16s “blasted out of Luke with their afterburners on full.” Soon, a third plane followed, and all three made a direct run toward the hovering UFOs.

As the first two jets were about to reach the UFOs, the unknown objects shot straight upward, and disappeared “in an instant.” The two jets flew right through the exact spot the UFOs had previously occupied. A Luke ground crewman later confirmed to NUFORC that the driver’s account was true. He also stated that upon returning to the base runway, one of the pilots had to be helped from his cockpit. He was visibly shaken from what had just happened.

According to Peter Davenport of the NUFORC one of the more intriguing reports was submitted by a young man who claimed to be an Airman stationed at Luke Air Force Base, located to the west of Phoenix in Litchfield Park. He telephoned the National UFO Reporting Center at 3:20 a.m. on Friday, some eight hours after the sightings on the previous night, and reported that two USAF F-15c fighters had been scrambled from Luke AFB, and had intercepted one of the objects.

Although the presence of F-15s could never be confirmed, the airman provided detailed information which proved to be highly accurate, based on what investigators would reconstruct from witnesses over subsequent weeks and months. Two days after his first telephone call, the airman called to report that he had just been informed by his commander that he was being transferred to an assignment in Greenland. He has never been heard from again since that telephone call.

I’ll try and post more in the next post . . .

Sometimes folks exposing their ignorance of the topic and the realities involved with reporting on the topic

gets embarrassing . . . for them.

Researching better could, for normal folks with well functioning synapses, lessen such embarrassment.

Sigh.

I started searching on Google and saw this site with a Dateline NBC program on their front page...

http://www.thephoenixlights.net/

This can be an introductory clip to what happened... I know there is much more information around and I’ll have to find it...

This shot is only one of many living atmospheric bioforms captured on IR film during the period from approximately 1957-62 by Trevor and his friend, Dr. Jim Woods, on the early morning desert plateau prior to sunrise.

Yes, there were fringe kooks and hucksters in the '50's also. They're probably the second and third oldest professions.

From an AZ republic article at that last link posted above:

Here are four: Dr. Bradley Evans, 47, is a clinical psychiatrist from Tucson. He and his wife, Kris, were driving north on Interstate 10 to a swimming meet in Tempe. They watched the lights for 20 minutes or so move slowly south in a diamond formation and pass over them at an estimated 1,500 feet. Even then, with the car’s moon roof open, they heard not a sound from the sky. He was “awed” by the experience and has no idea what he saw. Kris said she couldn’t explain it either and guesses it was “something military.”

Trig Johnston, 50, is a retired commercial airline pilot who lives in north Scottsdale. His 22-year-old son was looking for Comet Hale-Bopp that night when he noticed the lights and told his dad.

“I looked up and remember saying out loud, “I’m going to chalk this up to an illusion.’ It was the size of 25 airliners, moving at about 100 knots at maybe 5,000 feet, and it didn’t make a sound.

I’ve flown 747s across oceans and not seen anything like I saw that night,” Johnston said.

“I don’t expect anybody to take my word for it,” he added. “This was something you had to see for yourself to believe.”

Max Saracen, 34, is a real estate consultant who lives in north Phoenix. He and his wife, Shahla, were driving west on Deer Valley Road when they saw a huge triangular craft. They pulled off the road, got out and watched it pass overhead. “It was very spooky — this gigantic ship blocking out the stars and silently creeping across the sky. I don’t know of any aircraft with silent engines.”

Dr. X is a physician who lives near Squaw Peak in Phoenix and asked to remain anonymous for fear of ridicule.

Her home has an elevated, panoramic view of the Valley, and she has some of the best known videotape and photographs of the lights. Though she had no prior interest in UFOs, the episode prompted her to begin her own investigation.

“I think what happened is mind-boggling,” she said. “I’m trying to be as scientific as I can, and a number of things just don’t compute.”

I’m not given to an otherworldly answer. But neither do I think these four people and so many others who saw the lights are all exaggerating or delusional.

from:

http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2008/05/05/story9.html?b=1209960000^1629251

Lynne Kitei, a family medicine physician and former television health reporter, said she and her husband saw three orbs in the sky outside their Paradise Valley home in 1995. She also witnessed the 1997 Phoenix lights and anguished over whether to talk publicly about those episodes and the photos she took.

“I didn’t want to come forward, but it was too important not to share,” said Kitei, who also does medical communications work.

She wrote “Phoenix Lights” in 2004. She said the book is headed for a fourth printing. Kitei and California filmmaker Steve Lantz also produced and released a documentary on the book and the lights April 22.

None of the UFO entrepreneurs interviewed for this story would disclose how much revenue their businesses are generating. Most, however, hope the Internet will boost distribution and ease discourse related to their cause.

“The Internet has become the No. 1 arena for reporting, discussing, blogging, and marketing ideas and products connected with this topic. It seems that marketing through the Internet is the wave of the future. Products, sighting events, photos, reports and feedback can be posted in real time,” Kitei said.

from:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2007/03/07/20070307sr-phxlights0307Z8.html

Kitei, a Paradise Valley physician and health educator, had seen strange lights before - amber orbs as she describes them - more than two years before the 1997 Phoenix Lights event.

She researched the subject and decided to go public after listening to the lights being explained simply as flares.

“For many years this whole topic was swept under the carpet. That is one of the main reasons that I came forward,” she said.

In 2004, Kitei wrote a book about the Phoenix Lights, now in its third printing, called The Phoenix Lights: A Skeptic’s Discovery that We Are Not Alone.

Kitei also co-produced an award-winning documentary with cinematographer Steve Lantz, also called The Phoenix Lights, which debuted in Scottsdale in March 2005.

To coincide with the lights’ 10-year anniversary, Kitei is appearing throughout the Valley to discuss her book and film.

On Sunday, the documentary will return to the Harkins Shea 14 in Scottsdale for three exclusive showings that day. The documentary has been updated to include reported sightings in 2005 and 2006.

“What’s been really amazing and heartwarming and so fulfilling since I came forward in 2004, is the reality of these global unexplained phenomena has really gotten out there worldwide. What happened here was really significant and has opened up the door to so many other people worldwide,” Kitei said.

Her research about the Phoenix Lights took her on a path to study the connection between all unexplained phenomena.

“People really appreciate so much more than just the Phoenix Lights. The Phoenix Lights sucked me into this topic and really opened my eyes to a whole new world of information, not only consisting of these sightings, but to the potential we have as human beings, the enormous potential, to really make this a better world,” she said.

“It’s a healing process to know that we are not alone.”

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1805.htm

-———— Version 1:

Here is the article summary from Bill Corliss’ Science Frontiers newsletter: “The Arizona Object”

“... Whatever it was flew low from Paulden, 60 miles north of Phoenix, to at least as far as Tempe, southeast of Phoenix. The apparition cruised leisurely (perhaps only 30 miles/hour), remaining in the area for almost two hours. It consisted of a curious V-shaped formation of lights, usually five in number. ...

*The object, or formation of objects, was extremely large, perhaps a kilometer in length.

*Although the lights were easily discerned, the craft, if such there was, seemed only a vague outline that blocked out the stars.

*No sound was reported, which would seem to eliminate conventional aircraft.

*Air-traffic controllers could see the lights, but nothing appeared in their radars. One would think this fact would eliminate lighter-than-air craft.

*The lights themselves were not sharply defined like light bulbs. Rather, they appeared curiously distorted—like a gas flame. ...

“Comment [by Bill Corliss]: Given the large number of observers backed by videotapes, we have a phenomenon that should receive some official attention. Nothing seems to be in the works though. Some ufologists have wondered whether the whole show was staged by the government and will be explained later as an example of how people can be deluded by ordinary man-made devices!” -————— Clare, I’ve heard nothing of holographic testing.** The only two explanations in the local papers have been military parachute flares and hoaxing by light aircraft pilots. One advantage in my former place of employment is that I worked with about one dozen retired Air Force and Navy pilots and crewmembers. These people had backgrounds ranging from pilot, navigator, radar specialist, airborne command and control, tactical digital information link (TADIL), and ABCCC/AWACS staff positions. None of them gave any credence to the flares or hoaxing explanations. **Thought I read a message on either the IUFO or UASR lists about new holographic technology. Do you remember this?

. . .

Version 2: Following on the heels of my recent posting in response to Brad’s request for dramatic UFO cases, I share with the list a press release we circulated to a number of news outlets today. Interestingly, one of the wire services we contacted stated that they had never heard of the event! This IS the fourth rock from the Sun, is it not...??!

((BEGIN COPIED PRESS RELEASE))

PRESS RELEASE

Saturday, March 13, 1999, marks the second anniversary of the dramatic UFO sighting event that occurred two years ago over both the states of Nevada and Arizona, an event generally referred to as the “Phoenix Lights” case. One unconfirmed sighting report was received from the State of New Mexico, as well.

Many aspects of the case still remain unexplained and controversial, but a considerable body of data and evidence has been collected by many capable investigators, which suggests that the event was extraordinarily dramatic and bizarre. Moreover, it went virtually unreported in the press, save for a handful of short articles printed in local Arizona newspapers. The story finally “broke” with a major, front-page article in USA TODAY on Wednesday, June 18, 1997, some three months after the incident had occurred.

Some of the salient features of the case are described below:

1) Perhaps thousands, or tens of thousands, of witnesses on the ground witnessed at least one object pass and/or hover overhead which they described as being huge, gigantic, or unimaginably large. Many of the witnesses reported that they had the impression that a Boeing 747 could land on the back of the object they had just witnessed pass overhead their location.

2) Most witnesses described the object as being generally triangular in shape, with anywhere from five, to “many, innumerable,” lights on the leading edge of the object. Some observers reported that the pattern of lights consisted of three lights clustered near the “nose” of the object, with one light on each of the trailing tips of the triangle. Other individuals reported an object that appeared to have seven large lights equally spaced along its leading edge.

3) The object apparently was capable of very rapid flight, probably even supersonic flight, although few witnesses reported any sound emanating >from it. The object was reported heading generally to the southeast over Henderson, NV, at 1855 hrs. (Pacific), and was next reported heading to the south in the vicinity of Paulden, AZ, approximately 22 minutes later at 2017 hrs. (Mountain). Within approximately one minute of the sighting in Paulden, the object was reported from the vicinity of Prescott Valley, AZ, roughly 30 miles to the south. The object then appeared over Phoenix, where it is reported to have hovered for 4-5 minutes in the vicinity of the intersection of Indian School Road and 7th Avenue.

4) The object passed through the airspace of Sky Harbor Airport, where it was witnessed by air traffic controllers in the airport tower, and where it also was reported via radio by at least one commercial flight crew. They reported via radio that the object was passing directly overhead their aircraft, which was on the ground preparing to depart Sky Harbor. The object reportedly did not appear on radar, and it did not communicate via either radio or transponder.

5) From the Phoenix area, the object reportedly proceeded generally south toward South Mountain, continuing southeast toward Tucson, AZ, along Interstate 10. One family, driving northwest toward Phoenix on Interstate 10 near Casa Grande, AZ, reported that the object remained above them for an estimated 1- 2 minutes while they were driving at approximately 80 miles per hour. The object was so large above them that the family’s two children in the back seat of their station wagon simultaneously could see the opposite “wing tips” of the object out both the left and right passenger windows.

6) The National UFO Reporting Center received a telephone call approximately seven hours after the incident from a person who identified himself as an airman stationed at Luke Air Force Base, located 20 miles to the west of Phoenix. The individual reported that the U. S. Air Force had launched two F-15c fighter aircraft from Luke AFB, and that one of the aircraft had “intercepted” a gigantic object over the intersection of Indian School Road and 7th Avenue. It was also reported by this individual that the onboard radar of the intercepting fighter had suddenly gone to a condition of “white noise,” and that the lights on the anomalous object simultaneously had suddenly dimmed in unison and disappeared from the pilot’s sight. (Please see text of conversation with the alleged airman at www.ufocenter.com.)

7) On March 14, 1997, senior officers from Luke Air Force Base stated that they knew nothing about the incident, and that the base had received no reports from the public regarding the event. Long distance telephone bills, which indicate calls to the base, contradict the statements made by these officers.

8) Some military personnel and UFO investigators have asserted that the entire event was caused by “military flares” that had been released at approximately 2130 hrs. (Mountain) by a flight of USAF A-10 aircraft in the general vicinity of the Gila Bend Bombing Range. The bombing facility is located approximately 60-80 miles to the southwest of Phoenix. This event, if in fact it did take place, occurred at approximately 2130 or 2200 hrs., some 45 minutes after the UFO sighting had already occurred over northern Arizona, Phoenix, and Tucson.

9) The witnesses who reported their sightings of the object over northern Arizona and Phoenix include architects, physicians, law enforcement officers, educators, attorneys, airline pilots, scientists, real estate brokers, and other seemingly reliable citizens. Many are qualified observers, and have reported their sightings in eloquent, written form.

Further questions may be directed to: The National UFO Reporting Center P. O. Box 45623 University Station Seattle, WA 98145 Hotline: (206) 722-3000 (0800 to 2400 hrs. Pacific)

Press release prepared by Peter B. Davenport, Director, National UFO Reporting Center at 1300 hrs. (Pacific) on March 09, 1999.

An interesting quote from the Governor at that time (but retired now..., and finally making statements about it now that he’s out of office...)...

“…unless the Defense Department proves us otherwise, it was probably some form of alien spacecraft.” Former Governor, Fife Symington, CNN interview on Phoenix Lights, 3/21/07

He says more in other places and interviews. He’s reporting on his *first-hand* sighting, namely seeing it himself and saying he knows what he saw and it was a craft and he has no doubt about it.

—

There appears to be two different events the same night, one being related to flares and this other (the craft) being another event, different time and place (but same night).

from:

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1268.htm

Lights Over Phoenix (About.com)

Loy Lawhon, About.com

original source | fair use notice

Summary: Overview and analysis of the Phoenix Lights incident from About.com and Loy Lawhon.

Paulden, Arizona
Thursday, March 13, 1997
8:16 p.m.

The first reported sighting was by a former police officer who reported that he and his family had witnessed some unusual lights moving very rapidly across the night sky near Paulden, about 30 miles north of Prescott. He described what they saw as a very strange cluster of distinctly red-orange lights, which consisted of 4-5 red lights “in the lead,” followed by a single light which appeared to be “standing back from the others.” The lights in the lead gave the impression of being in a “V” formation, somewhat like a wedge or boomerang in shape.

Prescott, Arizona
8:17 p.m.

Callers from Prescott and Prescott Valley, approximately 50 miles north of Phoenix, reported that at approximately 8:17 p.m., they witnessed 4 or 5 very bright white lights pass overhead. They reported that what they saw seemed to be a triangular-shaped object with a complex grouping of lights along its sides. One witness was standing outside with his wife and sons in Prescott Valley when they noticed a cluster of lights to in the west-northwest. The lights formed a triangle, but all of them appeared to be red except for a light at the “nose” of the object, which was white. They observed for several minutes as the lights passed directly over their heads, banked to the right, and then disappeared to the southeast. All of the observers described the lights as gliding soundlessly through the night sky. There was absolutely no sound at all coming from them.

Dewey, Arizona

The report came from Dewey, AZ, about ten miles south of Prescott. Six people driving north on Highway 69 towards Prescott witnessed a large cluster of lights in the form of a “V” shape in the sky. They pulled off the road into a grocery store parking lot and got out of their car in order to get a better look at the lights. By then, the lights were directly above them, where they appeared to hover for several minutes. The caller, an experienced flyer, reported that the object defined by the lights was so large that, if he clenched his fist and held it at arm’s length, he could not cover the size of the object with his fist. He estimated the completely silent object to be not over 1,000 feet above the ground and moving at a very slow pace, considerably slower than an aircraft would fly.

The next reports were from Chino Valley, Tempe, Glendale, and Phoenix. Generally, the sightings seemed to move southward from Paulden to Prescott to Phoenix and finally towards Casa Grande and then Tucson.

A report from Chandler, Arizona states that a man and his wife saw the formation of lights at 8:30 p.m.

In Tucson a man watched the formation of lights from 8:45 to after 9:00 p.m. He reported that the lights came from the northwest, flew overhead for 5-10 minutes, and then disappeared to the south as they moved off over the mountains.

One of the later reports was from Kingman, AZ, where a young man, enroute to Los Angeles, called from a phone booth to report having seen a large cluster of lights moving slowly in the northern sky. Note that Kingman is back towards the north, in the direction of Las Vegas.

The next day, March 14, The Air Force disavowed any knowledge of the sightings, even refusing to admit receiving and phone reports of the sightings at Luke AFB (near Phoenix) on March 13. This in spite of a rumor that an operator at Luke had told a caller that she was being flooded with UFO calls that night and in spite of individuals’ phone bills, which prove that they called the base that night.

The National UFO Reporting Center reportedly received a telephone call on March 14 from a person who identified himself as an airman stationed at Luke Air Force Base. The caller said two F-15c fighters were scrambled from Luke, and that one of the aircraft had “intercepted” a gigantic object over the intersection of Indian School Road and 7th Avenue. It was also reported by this individual that the onboard radar of the intercepting fighter had suddenly gone to a condition of “white noise,” and that the lights on the anomalous object simultaneously had suddenly dimmed in unison and disappeared from the pilot’s sight.

calculations and diagrams about the lights are here:

http://brumac.8k.com/phoenixlights1.html

from:

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1272.htm

Tim Ley Family — Eyewitness of 3/13/97 Arizona UFO Flyover Called ‘Phoenix Lights’

Tim Ley, 1998

original source | fair use notice

Summary: There were four of us standing together that saw “something” pass over our heads on March 13, 1997 in Phoenix. What follows ismy impression. Until this event happened here in Phoenix on March 13th, I was not a believer in Ufos.

There were four of us standing together that saw “something” pass over our heads on March 13, 1997 in Phoenix. What follows is my impression.

Until this event happened here in Phoenix on March 13th, I was not a believer in Ufos. What I mean by that is that I had never had a clear and direct experience with a Ufo. I had seen strange lights in the sky before in my life, but never close enough for me to see exactly what it was. If someone told me they saw something strange in the sky, I would not deny what they saw but no one I ever knew personally had seen something up close. So I definitely was not on the “Ufo bandwagon”, although I knew people who were. I was politely reserved on the subject of Ufo’s. I would still feel uncomfortable just saying “I believe in Ufo’s”. In my understanding of the meaning of the word “belief”, I apply its meaning to God and to the fruit of God, which is life. I don’t believe in any objects, even Ufo’s. I reserve my belief for people and for God.

The way I feel about Ufo’s is the same as I feel about the Statue Of Liberty. I’ve been there and I looked at it and touched it. If I came to your town and visited you and you had never seen or touched the Statue of Liberty, not even on TV or photos, you might ask me if I saw it and touched it, and I would just remember back to when I was there at the Statue and I would describe my memory. After my description to you, you would not say to me: “I believe in the Statue of Liberty” but rather you would decide in yourself whether or not you believed what I was saying. If you believed what I said you might then say “I believe you Tim” which would mean that you trust me. So in truth you would be more apt to say “I believe in Tim” instead of “I believe in the Statue of Liberty”. In that context I can tell you that asking me if I believe in Ufo’s would be the same as asking about the Statue. I believe in myself and I saw a Ufo up close.

My wife Bobbi; my 10 year old son Hal; my 13 year old grandson Damien, and I all saw the same thing and agree completely together in our descriptions of what happened. For us the event began shortly after 8:00 PM on March 13, 1997. Phoenix is called the “Valley of the Sun”, because it is almost completely surrounded by mountains. Our house is up in the north mountains of Phoenix. Our neighborhood is like a mountain valley a couple thousand feet in elevation, surrounded on three sides by peaks and open completely on the west side to the valley in the southwest and the mountains in the northwest. My son Hal and I had just arrived home and pulled into our driveway. The front of the car was facing west. The sun was down and it was already getting dark. After we parked, Hal had to sit in the front seat of the car and wait for me to come around and open his door, which only opened from the outside. He was looking around the sky through his window to see if the Hale-Bopp comet was visible while he waited. At that time the Hale-Bopp comet would appear in the western sky, right after sundown.

When I opened his door he told me to look toward the Northwest and see the strange lights. My grandson, Damien had come out front when he heard me pull up in the car, and came over to look also. At first what Hal pointed out looked like a very tiny arc of 5 lights. It looked like they were just floating in the sky. As my eyes adjusted to looking at this arc of lights, I thought perhaps the lights were outlining the top side of a blimp, or balloon; especially because they seemed to just float there. The pattern of the lights looked like something between a small arc and the Greek letter Omega. We could clearly see it was 5 separate lights. We realized the reason these lights seemed to “float” was because they were moving directly towards us not deviating from its course directly towards us at all. Hal ran in the house and got my wife Bobbi and brought her out. The lights were still in arc formation when Bobbi came out to look. She commented about the “floating” effect of the lights. And we again talked about how the lights were coming directly at us.

We could see the lights were also getting slightly larger and the spaces in between them increasing in distance. We stood there together, watching the arc of lights continue to approach and then after another minute or so the pattern of lights changed shape. It now appeared that the middle light on the top of the arc had elongated up, so that now the lights looked like the letter A, without the bar across, which would be the Greek letter “Alpha”. At the time I thought that the reason it had changed its appearance from an arc pattern to an alpha pattern was that it might have been so far on the horizon, that it had flattened-out on the top, like the sun flattens over the ocean at sunset. However since then I have found out that two witnesses from the Prescott area (which is northwest of us and about 85 miles away in the same direction where we saw the arc of lights) had seen a “V” formation of 5 lights passing over them slowly and silently which then transformed into an “arc” pattern and sped away rapidly towards Phoenix in the southeast. Since the arc of lights which we saw was coming directly towards us, we couldn’t tell how fast it was going. But when it was in the alpha formation we could see it was going pretty slow. Likewise the distance between the lights was increasing. It was very clearly an Alpha pattern, although at the time we thought in terms of a “V” formation, like military helicopters might fly. We were all out in my front yard watching these lights, which continued to come directly towards us, maintaining their altitude and position without deviation.

We could see the distinct and even separation between the lights as it got closer and closer. I was amazed at the rigid relationship between the five lights. I watched them closely for a few minutes to see if there was any deviation whatsoever, and there was none. It seemed that the lights were moving towards us so slowly and were spread out so far that it almost had to be a squadron of five helicopters cruising in formation. I continued to observe that the lights were rigidly maintaining the Alpha pattern without any deviation whatsoever. My mind was searching for an answer that could balance these two different observations: the great distance between the lights; and the absolute integrity of their relationship to each other. My wife and I were talking to each other while this was going on, and we discussed how difficult it would be to fly five separate objects in such a perfect pattern. They were still coming straight at us, never altering course or altitude. We were standing right in my front yard next to our big saguaro cactus and watched this Alpha pattern of five bright white lights come directly at us for probably about 15 minutes altogether before it reached us. By the time it got about a mile away we had finally decided it was definitely one huge structure, because the lights were so rigidly maintaining their relative positions to each other they had to be locked together.

We also noted that we still had not heard any kind of sounds coming from that direction. If it had been five helicopters, then we would have heard their engines. Where we live, up in this small mountain valley, we can hear the slightest engine noises from miles away. And now this object was almost upon us and we still didn’t hear anything. At this point, especially because of its apparent immense size and slow speed, it began to dawn upon us that this was not anything we were even remotely familiar with. It was not an airplane or a balloon or helicopters or anything else we had ever seen before. It was a real Ufo. I told everyone to really pay attention so we could remember afterwards. For me that means I stopped thinking about everything else in the world and focused my mind and all my senses on the moment in time and what I was looking at, with my mind completely open. As the event progressed we all would spontaneously call out some specific observation we were having at various times. I imagined that I had a place in my mind that was like a camcorder and I began to mentally “record” everything that I was experiencing. I commented that the lights had to be connected together, as no separate flying lit objects in our world could maintain such perfect symmetry. By now it was about a half a mile away, still coming directly at us, and at that point, we could then clearly see the distinct outline of its dark shape as it moved across the background of stars which were above and beyond it. What we saw reminded me of a carpenter’s square set at 60 degrees. That was what popped in my head. That’s because the outline of the structure of the object, was so perfectly balanced, sharp-edged and geometrical. The leading tip was pointed and the ends of both arms were squared off. The five lights were set perfectly into the structure in balance with each other, with the leading light set in the middle up front right behind the pointed tip. Each of its two arms had two lights set in them evenly spaced from the center front light with the last lights on each arm set in the structure just in front of the squared-off ends.

The structure itself was very dark, just slightly darker than the sky. At a distance it seemed to blend into the sky so well that you could only really see its shape because of the stars behind it showing its outline When we finally saw the shape of the structure against the stars, we were all totally astonished. Even though we had already suspected there was a structure, we were still not prepared mentally for the reality of what we were seeing and what was happening.. It looked like something out of a science fiction story was about to pass directly over us. It was mind-boggling because it was so huge but at the same time so geometric. You would expect to see more to the shape and perhaps some kind of recognizability design. But all there was was a geometric shape with evenly spaced lights set into it. It was amazing because I had nothing else in my experience to compare it to.

And by now there was no time to do anything but stand there and observe as much as possible. I knew it was important and I had to really pay attention. As it approached closer it was overwhelmingly large, spread out over a couple of blocks. We noticed that one of the lights on the far side arm seemed to flicker into two lights. We talked about the possibility of double lights for a couple of seconds. By that point the tip of the structure with the leading light reached us and we shifted our attention to observe the west arm of the Alpha structure and its lights as it began to pass directly over our heads and diagonally across the street in front of our house. It intersected our street at an approximate 20 degree angle, on a northwest to southeast course. The length of the arm passing over us was probably about 700 feet long. It was very dark so we could just barely see its edges. The shape blocked out the stars. It is very difficult to get an accurate impression of the dimensions of such an immense object when it is so close that you can’t see the whole thing in one view. When it was passing over it was just that close. We had to first look at one end, and then shift our heads to see the other end in order to get an idea of how big it was. As it was passing over I did look down the length of the arm, at the last light, and it seemed to be a couple of blocks long.

I think this is corroborated by knowing the relative speed of the object and how long it took to pass over our heads. This object was moving so slowly overhead and it was so close that by watching the lights you could get a pretty good feel for its speed. As it passed over, I tried to memorize my perception of the relative speed of the lights as they passed by and have subsequently reviewed that memory and compared it to other memories of known relative speeds, which I have accumulated over the years. My conclusion is that this object was travelling approximately 30mph. My kids thought it was moving as slow as 15mph but they have limited experience with relative speeds. I trust my own judgment based on 36 years of driving cars over the streets and highways of America. Like millions of drivers around the world, I can drive a car at whatever approximate speed I want without looking at the speedometer especially city-cruising speed around 35mph. I can feel speed from the seat of my pants as I drive along in my car. The object was definitely going slower than 35mph. If I’m standing still watching an object pass by me, within a reasonable distance like 100 feet, and I want to know it’s relative speed, I would compare the “feel” of the relative motion of the object to reference points in my mind that access similar relative motion “feelings”. Many times in my life I’ve stood on the side of some street or road and watched cars drive by. I know what a vehicle travelling 35mph looks like. Again, this object was going noticeably slower than 35. So in the light of that, I would again estimate the speed of the craft to be about 30mph,

As to it’s altitude above me, it was so close that at first I felt oppressed by its presence because it covered so much total area in our neighborhood and it was impossibly low. My first impression was that it was about 100 feet up in the air. It was so close, it was hard to believe. It was a huge dark shape with immense lights in it. I have thought about its altitude above me many times, and reviewed my first impression. I have to stick by that impression because all my experience tells me to. I grew up in New York City and spent years working in Manhattan and I liked to walk to where I needed to go, because the busses and subways felt so constrictive compared to the freedom of walking. As I walked I would look at all the various buildings and out of habit, would count the stories and calculate the height. I would allow ten feet per floor. After awhile I had a whole bunch of different buildings in my head and would use these images to calculate relative elevations of other things like trees or hills or bridges or whatever. I always thought in “stories” and would convert “stories” to feet whenever I needed to know feet. When I thought about the Alpha structure in my memory and compared its altitude to the heights of buildings I have known, I felt convinced that its altitude was closer to 100 feet above me, than anything else. The relative low altitude of this object over us was verified a few minutes after passing over us as it moved through the gap in the mountain peaks. It passed the peak on the southwest side of the object about halfway up to the top of the peak. The top of the peak is only a couple hundred feet higher than my property.

The overwhelming feeling of the closeness and immense size of the alpha structure passing overhead was in stark contrast to the absolute silence around us. There was absolutely no sound coming out of the object. It was ridiculously close and there was no noise. It was so quiet that our dogs in the back yard didn’t even bark. As a matter of fact the whole neighborhood seemed to be still. When I think about it the whole scene seemed to be like something out of “2000 SPACE ODYSSEY”. The craft seemed more to be in orbit; just sailing by like it was in zero gravity in outer space. There didn’t seem to be anything threatening about the craft. It was just passing quietly and slowly over us. It was definitely a surreal atmosphere. When it first began to pass over, I felt a nervousness in my body, almost like stagefright. The craft itself wasn’t
doing anything threatening other than being so close. It just stayed silently on its course without deviation.

I think this nervousness which I felt in my body was probably some kind of reflection of the energy of the craft passing over us. Somehow I was “feeling” the craft in my nervous system; and so was my family. It was as if there was some type of field extending beyond the edge of the structure, and we could sense it. At first when the field came upon us, the kids started jumping up and down talking about how there was no sound and mentioning the movie “Independence Day” and exhibiting symptoms of hysteria. They were even backing away as if they would run into the house. But then they directed their excitement to running out in the street under the craft, looking up inside of the arms and checking it out. They were so excited they were almost giddy. I felt excitement myself, but at the same time I was mentally calm. I was observing with absolute focus and continued to remain calm. I felt a slight emptiness in my chest and upper back, almost like I was going to get a chill in my upper back, you know the kind of chill that goes up the back of your neck, and I had slight goosebumps on both my arms. I really didn’t think about being afraid at that moment because I was completely overwhelmed by all the aspects of what I was observing. What was happening was unbelievable. I just tried to observe the object and remember as much as I could while I had the opportunity. The kids were out in the street looking up inside in the space between the arms and pointed out to my wife and I how strangely the stars looked, almost as if looking through a very thick glass with the slight distortion of the light as it passed through, caused by the thickness itself and a wavering effect caused by the
motion of the craft.

The look of the stars up inside between the arms was almost like a video projection. These stars were noticeably different from the look of the stars in the rest of the sky. At that moment I had the thought that I was looking at some kind of field that tricked my eyes into seeing around whatever was up inside between the two arms of the craft. I thought that there was more up above me than I was actually seeing.

We were also still amazed by the complete lack of sound. Perhaps whatever technology could achieve visual stealth also had audio stealth. It was impossibly strange that there was no sound at all. There wasn’t even a wind sound that you might expect from the motion of an object of such a size, or even strong breeze from the air being displaced in front of it. The concept of “stealth” comes to our minds when we think about a flying object that you can’t see with radar, and obviously visual stealth is also possible. Well its not hard to also imagine some type of audio stealth. But the “stealth” idea comes from the military-type viewpoint, that the “stealth” function is the intent of an object which we cannot sense. It is possible that the “stealth” ability of the craft is only an ancillary function of the craft’s power and drive system.

As the structure passed overhead, its altitude and course was maintained exactly. I had been watching the right arm of the craft go by overhead and as the part in between the lights passed by I could see its outer edge against the stars in the sky, and that edge flowed by so perfectly even, without any fluctuation whatsoever, that I got the impression it was like watching a train go by on an unseen track. The object maintained its altitude so exactly that it demonstrated it was not “lifted by air. This exactness and evenness of motion was not possible with any kind of earth aircraft. This thing was not floating on air. It was moving through it.

Finally, after about 13 to 15 seconds, the last light on the tip of the right arm passed slowly overhead directly perpendicular to the point where my wife and I were standing. I had been waiting for it to come by so I could get a good look at it from directly underneath. I was so focused that when this light passed over us, it seemed like everything slowed down and for a brief instant the light seemed frozen in time. The diameter of the light was at least 6 or 7 feet across; it could have been even larger. The luminance was perfectly uniform. I saw the most beautiful white, soft, luminous light which glowed ever so slightly around its edges, as if it was bulging slightly out of the surface. I could see through the soft white light at the surface below into what appeared to be a cylinder without any bottom. I got the impression it was like a well, but instead of being a water well it was a light well. I could only see far enough into it to get the impression of depth. Below the surface, there seemed to be particles of light rapidly streaming about, and as they came streaming up to the surface they disappeared into the surface light. The surface itself seemed to be holding the light inside and reminded me of the surface-tension effect you see at the top of a overfilled glass of liquid. The light did not radiate out of the surface of the light well. It was super pure and bright but was trapped inside. We remained in the darkness below it without being illuminated at all or any part of the neighborhood as it passed over. The light on the surface was like reflected light, and must have had its source inside the well as if the light inside could not escape and we were just seeing a reflection of it on the surface of whatever type of field was holding it in. This was not a big light bulb or any other earthly light derived from heat. It was pure light, with such beauty that it is inexplicable within the normal human experience. It was super bright and yet not glaring. I could look directly into it without any difficulty.

My wife wears contact lenses and normally gets a lot of refraction in her eye from any bright light. She told me that as the craft approached she was able to look at its lights without any kind of distortion. There was no corona around the lights. And when it was overhead she was able to look at it and see it clearly and sharp. It was pleasing to look at. Even now, when I look at the light in my mind’s eye, I feel soothed and pleased by its beauty. My wife also experiences the same phenomena. I have wondered and thought about that one light every day since the event happened. And every day I seem to learn more about it. Its obvious that the function of the light has nothing to do with illumination, so I don’t even think of the light in that context. What context I do think about the light, is as the source of the craft’s silent flying power. It may, in fact be the very thing which keeps this huge object up in the air, and more.

After the light passed by, I continued to stay focused on it, but then I noticed the perfectly squared-off end of the dark structure as it went by right after the light, the dark shape clearly visible to us against the background of stars and slightly lighter sky. The image of that squared-off end is one of the clearest in my memory, because its exactness was such a curiosity.

What was also strange was that I could not get an impression of the thickness of the structure as I only could see the flat dark outline with no exact thickness. The only impression of thickness came from seeing into the light but even then I could only see enough to recognize that inside the light was cylindrical and had depth. As the craft moved away from us towards the southeast the kids started running down the street after the object and started yelling that we should get in our car and chase after it as it was going so slowly that we probably could catch up to it. It really was going ridiculously slow. It almost seemed to hover. That last light continued to move away from me towards the southeast when all of a sudden it appeared to act something like the one light we had observed when the craft was coming toward us. The light I was focused on seemed to split into two lights, one above the other, and slightly separated from each other. Both lights remained white but took on a slight reddish/amber caste and it seemed that I was seeing the light through a kind of transparent waviness like a mirage. The pattern of the mirage in front of the top light, was going in the opposite direction than the pattern of the mirage in front of the bottom light, as if one light was the reverse image of the other light. This all happened in a second or two and then the light cleared up and became stable again. Just around this point, while the craft was still slowly cruising over the neighborhood, my uncle came out of the house. He’s 84 years old. He was able to see the lights but by the time he looked the structure no longer was clearly visible.

We all continued to stand outside and watch the object continue on its course slowly through our mountainside neighborhood. It finally reached the gap through the mountain peaks at the end of Hatcher road. When it passed through, and headed out over the city, my wife said she saw a dome-shaped bulge in the middle on the top of the craft, which appeared to be picking up some of the city and parkway lights below and reflecting them off of its surface. We knew there was more to this craft than just a simple “V” shape with lights in it. We later thought it must be a peculiarity of the visual stealth that at certain angles of view, you can see light reflect off of it. The craft maintained its course and altitude seemingly following the curve of the earth, heading straight due southeast on a course that would pass just south and west of Squaw
peak.

When it went through the pass we could see that it just barely fit through the pass and that its altitude was only about half way up the peak on the right side of the pass. We watched it go out over the valley and as it did the light pattern now appeared to have a V shape, with the point down. It was as if it was in a low orbit around the curvature of the earth, that was only 100 feet or so over the elevation of my house and on a course that had exactly intersected the street right in front of my house and continued straight through a notch in the mountain peaks. It was like a huge arrow being launched from the distant northwest that shot right through the small notch in our mountain peaks at Hatcher Pass. Wewatched it for a few more minutes as it continued its course out over the valley. Finally we lost the 5 lights in the mix of other aircraft lights and atmosphere over Phoenix. Once it was out of sight, we all continued to stand outside and talk. We were all excited because we knew we had just had the most unique experience in the world. We certainly couldn’t talk about the complete meaning of the event at that moment. It would literally take me months of daily reflection on my memory of the event to decipher so much information. But at that moment, when the craft had just passed over us, I summed up all my immediate perceptions and feelings and thoughts into one conclusion: this craft was not from this world. As a matter of fact, right after the craft passed over and I was watching move away, I said to my wife “whoever has this technology must be in cahoots with God”.

I know that some people might not want to hear me speak of God and Ufos in the same breath, but my comment about God is part of what happened at that moment and is very much a part of this sighting. There is no satisfactory worldly explanation for what we saw. Realize that lots of folks saw the lights from various distances and angles, and some videotaped them. A few witnesses also saw the actual structure with the lights set in it. Our family was fortunate enough to see the whole thing close up. This craft is a reality, and anyone that saw any part of its activity, recognized that it was completely out of the normal human experience on the earth. But this craft is now part of that human experience, and if you ask most of the humans that experienced it, they would say it was probably an extraterrestrial craft. In regards to my family, it comes down to believing us, that we are being honest and truthful in describing the fantastic details of what we experienced. If you were to ask me what I think about it, I would say that it is an extraterrestrial craft. I say this because the science and technology of this amazing craft is not understood or explainable by anyone from our world. What we saw is “impossible”, and yet we did see it. And what we saw was so geometrical and acted under such absolute control, that I had the overwhelming impression that it was of human origin. I know it’s difficult to equate “extraterrestrial” and “human” but that’s how I felt at the time and still do. And finally my perception was that whoever had such wondrous technology had to be “in cahoots with God”. These “visitors” deliberately allowed their technology to be seen and even videotaped, by just everyday people, for some reason. They did not “show” themselves to the military or any “official” group. Rather, they communicated
to the people.

My understanding is that these visitors are here to help our world. Our family prays that this is so, and look forward to a better future for all the people of the world.

Tim Ley
Phoenix, Arizona

More of the Governor’s quotes...

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(CNN November 9, 2007) — In 1997, during my second term as governor of Arizona, I saw something that defied logic and challenged my reality. I witnessed a massive delta-shaped, craft silently navigate over Squaw Peak ... this dramatically large, very distinctive leading edge with some enormous lights was traveling through the Arizona sky. As a pilot and a former Air Force Officer, I can definitively say that this craft did not resemble any man-made object I’d ever seen. And it was certainly not high-altitude flares because flares don’t fly in formation. —Fife Symington III

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(Leslie Kean, “Symington confirms he saw UFO 10 years ago”, The Daily Courier, March 18, 2007) — It was enormous and inexplicable. Who knows where it came from? A lot of people saw it, and I saw it too. It was dramatic. And it couldn’t have been flares because it was too symmetrical. It had a geometric outline, a constant shape. —Fife Symington III

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Interesting and from a very qualified witness and one who was aware, at the time — being Governor, then — of how big of a sighting this was...

You missed this:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/04/22/20080422abrk-strangelights0422.html

“There could be a more down-to-earth explanation behind the strange lights that appeared over Phoenix on Monday night, according to one Phoenix man.

Lino Mailo, 44, said he saw his neighbor launch several helium balloons with flares attached to them from the back porch of his north Phoenix home. Mailo said the balloons took off about 8 p.m., right before the mysterious lights were spotted.

“It’s pretty tricky, because the higher the balloons get, the harder it is to tell what they are,” Mailo said.

A helicopter pilot with the Phoenix police department who was flying last night also saw the objects and said they appeared to simply be some flares hanging from helium balloons....”

And isn’t Peter Davenport a regular on Coast to Coast? Art Bell and George Noory aren’t exactly the standard bearers for Truth.