Posted on 12/20/2008 6:31:35 PM PST by rocco55
Well, I do see you’re listening to the volume of proof, and thank you.
What I have issue with is the American Sheep. The majority of the Sheep have broken faith with their veterans past and present. They have embraced the enemy and I no longer have any faith in them, nor do I have any compulsion to continue to defend them. My oath constrains me to continue, though, and so I must.
Like I told someone else on this thread, we have lost the culture war. We are now in an insurgency, and we better figure out how to fight as insurgents. Part of being an insurgent is realizing that you cannot win the fight force-onforce with the enemy. You have to select your battles based on the limited resources you have.
We do not have the media; but we do have the Internet and talk radio, for now. We do not have the schools, and never will. We do have the military, para-military, and the veterans - for now. We are losing the propaganda war with the COLB thing; the Sheep refuse to listen, based on the media’s work. Time to cut our losses and pick the next fight; and the next fight after that. I have not given up, but I must recognize when to quit.
Thank you, LucyT, for informing me that you know that Old Sarge is a veteran. I would never intentionally insult any of our active military men and women, nor a veteran.
I had no way of knowing that he is in fact, a veteran.
I think you are right about being in an insurgency. I disagree that this issue is a big loser. Heck it's barely penetrated the national consciousness. If it's for naught, which seems increasingly likely, it will be soon forgotten. But it does have the potential for a really big payoff. Sort of like a buried 105 round, on a little traveled road.
Then there is the little matter of our oaths. Ignoring a potentially ineligible pretender to the office of President, is not exactly supporting the Constitution against domestic enemies or possibly foreign enemies, come to that. Besides which, this whole thing may yet be resolved without a hot insurgency. Although time for that is running out, and finding out in 2010 that the President is an illegal alien, or otherwise ineligible to the office, is not going to help keep things cool.
No thanks needed, Old Sarge.
I agree with almost everything you said. Where we disagree is that you want to quit putting pressure on Obama and the courts in order to prevent a potential Constitutional crisis. I think this issue is far to important to ignore and quitting would be a win for Obama.
This COLB issue wouldn’t have ever even made any of the news....not in the national media and not online...if it hadn’t been for those of us who have pushed and shoved this issue to the forefront. It has taken a long, long time to get this issue to where it is today and I’m not about to give up the battle when we have gained some ground and the fight is so important.
Heck, I don’t care if you don’t want to be a part of the fight. What bothers me is that you’re trying to beat down the troops that do want to fight.
Like our troops, we can fight on many fronts at the same time.
I think the point is that they were not fake names, but rather his legal name at various times. Soetero because he was adopted by Solo Soetero, his mother's second husband, assuming she really was married to BHO senior. But if she wasn't then Dunham would have been his name. Also it's possible that his "typical white" grandmother (and possibly gramps too) adopted him after his mother sent him back to Hawaii from Indonesia. Who knows? That too is the point, who knows!
now Obama is one of the most famous persons on the globe as the man in control of the nuclear powerhouse, presiding over what was once a major economic power.
You’re welcome, CaribouCrossing. I understand.
I appreciate that, LucyT. Thank you.
Not sure I swallow the Malcom X theoery, but if
Malcom Little is his Daddy, then we have a name of:
BARRY DUNHAM LITTLE 6-6-6
Actually, if Sotero is an alternate spelling of his last name it still works:
Barry (6) Dunham (6) Sotero (6)
Yes, and my comment still stands. The man looks like his (maternal) grandfather. Imagine that.
I don't, but many people do. I'm told I look a bit like maternal great Uncle Earl, who I have no memory of, although he was not that much older than my mother.
Frank Choussein Obama
F X O
six six-hundred sixty
Check for a vertical mark on the upper lips... you’ll see Barry inherited his upper lip from his father Frank Marshall Davis, not from Obama Sr.
If you put Stanley Ann’s huge jayleno chin on Frank’s receded chin, you get Barry’s chin.
Agree that the rest of his facial featurs look most like Stanley Armour Dunham’s...
God Bless your son for his service and sacrifice..
Please thank him..
That being said..
You commented on a post that had nothing to do with you..
This was your comment:
“In my opinion, there are some people who post online and use names such as “sarge” to give people the impression that they have served in the U.S. military”
Who was it directed at, if not Old Sarge?
As far as “high horses” go..
I’ve never been on one..
I try to do what is right by the Military by Honoring our Fallen in The Patriot Guard.
That is all I have to say.
But here, we find you just did.
I dare say that no one, no one, respects our military men and women more than I do. I come from a long, long line of military service. Our eldest son served in Iraq.
Then you have yet to meet Ms. Behavin; a Patriot Guard Rider, veteran's daughter, and renowned troop supporter. She has defended my brothers and sisters under arms with determined zeal, and gave me unwavering help when my mother died while I was in Ramadi.
Since you have said that you had family downrange, perhaps you might decide to take advantage of the things she knows? Ms. B. is a fountain of resource for getting MWR support for the gang in the Sandbox - I know, my soldiers have personally benefitted from her generosity. So can you. Ask her politely, and she can direct you to places of patriotism both on FR and off-site.
Earn her friendship. And you'll be glad you did. It's worth mithril.
Looking ahead and to the future after Obama gets his chance at the Whitehouse and the subject of “citizen” becomes trash along the highway I can see no reason why Arnold Schwarzenegger cannot run for VP if not be nominated as President, legally he can be VP nominated.
Let us know how that works for you...
Thank you for that information, Old Sarge.
Ms. Behavin, thank you very much for all you have done and continue to do for our troops. I was not aware of your support and generosity, but now that I am, you have my utmost respect and gratitude.
God bless you both.
Caribou
The Electoral College has voted for him, next step is presentation to both house of Congress, and the House and Senate then make the final decision. If they vote for Obama, that’s the end of it. The courts have no role to play. Read the words of the Constitution and this is clear.
Let’s oppose Mr. Obama and his agenda in other more likely to succeed ways.
12th Amendment to the Constitution:
The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;
The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;
“The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.
The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”
By the way, Harvard Law School issues a separate yearbook of its own, and students there are not listed in the Harvard College yearbook.
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