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Things could get really ugly on Wall Street Today.

Posted on 06/27/2008 6:10:34 AM PDT by Eddiehaskell7

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To: lexusppd

“Thanks but I’m not as well versed as you suggest. I actually am a long term investor and this is the first time I bailed out. It was just a hunch, one Ive had before but never as strong.”

Beautifully done! I don’t care whether you get it from a newsletter, a litle bird, tea leaves, or a feeling in your stomach! Congrats again!


61 posted on 06/27/2008 8:07:54 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Congrasites = Congressional parasites.)
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To: stuartcr

We all are already concerned. We don’t need a vanity post to promote more gloom and doom.


62 posted on 06/27/2008 8:23:34 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver

If we didn’t need vanity posts about the doom and gloom, at least 50% of FR would disappear, between the economy, the terrorists, the rampant decadance in our society, etc.

I think people like doom and gloom...at least when it’s about the other side.


63 posted on 06/27/2008 8:28:04 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: wideawake
Quick economics question. I've heard that that the high prices on gas+food are mostly attributable to Bernanke’s slashing Interest rates indiscriminately and thus could have been avoided. Any validity?
64 posted on 06/27/2008 8:37:00 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
I've heard that that the high prices on gas+food are mostly attributable to Bernanke’s slashing Interest rates indiscriminately and thus could have been avoided. Any validity?

None.

Higher gas prices are due to China: enormous demand which is subsidized by the Chinese government at below-market prices using money which is externally undervalued. In other words - the Chinese central bank is having a distortive effect on fuel prices.

Food prices are driven higher by the enormous redirection of grains to alternative energy subsidies - since grains are inputs into cattlefeed and almost every processed food product (hydrogenated corn syrup, various fillers), the price of meat and dairy as well as baked and packaged goods has gone up.

65 posted on 06/27/2008 8:58:49 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: stuartcr

“If we didn’t need vanity posts about the doom and gloom, at least 50% of FR would disappear,”

Can’t argue with that!


66 posted on 06/27/2008 9:08:34 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Eddiehaskell7

The market rises, the market falls. Historically there is no ten year period when the market has not risen including the ten years before and after the Great Depression. Folks, what is there to complain about? Gas may be at 4 dollars but we don’ have lines and rationing like in Carter years. Interest rates are still low. Remember the late 70’s early 80’s when mortgages were 13-16%. Inflation is still in check. Again, late 70’s early 80’s...double digit inflation. 96% of all mortgages are being met and of the remaining 4%, most are arranged with the lenders to stay afloat.
Just because the MSM is trying to invoke panic does not mean we have to buy into it. Remember, this is an election year. EVERYTHING NEEDS to be bad otherwise this country might actually elect some (Evil) Republicans.


67 posted on 06/27/2008 9:38:42 AM PDT by Senior Chief (Here I am, right where I left myself.)
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To: Senior Chief

Oh, and one last little tidbit.
As a percentage of GDP defense spending, including Iraq and Afghanistan only total 2%. This is the smallest defense spending has ever been. Constitutionally speaking, defense is the only enumerate expenditure congress can make. Everything else is either unconstitutional, or extra-constitutional.


68 posted on 06/27/2008 9:45:45 AM PDT by Senior Chief (Here I am, right where I left myself.)
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To: wideawake; Eddiehaskell7
Good response.

Oh BTW, its going on 4:40PM here in the east coast. The earth is still here. Everyone around me is talking about their weekend plans. (spend money spend money)

The sun is still shining. I am getting a little tired from “bracing” Can I let go now?
...and what about traffic? I have never road home in traffic during an apocalypse. Should I give myself a little more time to get home?

69 posted on 06/27/2008 1:44:20 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: wideawake; Borges; Carry_Okie
>>None.
>>Higher gas prices are due to China
>>the Chinese central bank is having a distortive effect on fuel prices.
 
The Chinese Central Bank has more control over American gas prices than the American Central Bank does?  Wow, that's not good.  Who let that happen?
 
Ehem.
 
1. What is M3?
2. What happened to M3 between 2005 and present?
3. Why did the FED stop publishing M3 in 2006?
4. What effect does monetary inflation have upon the price of imports; imports like um... Oil?
 
Now, about China - Where does China fit into the equation?
 
Thesis==Capitalism
Antithesis==Communism
==================
Synthesis==Globalism
 
Chinese Communist "Capitalists" are the fruit of the Hegelian Dialectic process; the Marxist practitioners of which having the desired result of a global secular state or -  Novus Ordo Seclorum.
 
Novus == New
Ordo==Order
Seclorum==Secular
===============
New Secular Order 
 
Secular means "without religion".   A world without religion; now I wonder where they got that idea?
 
Hmmm, seems to me they're going to end up with a collective structure which becomes the object of worship and servitude - and there's a word for that.
 
In Biblical times, its name was Baal.
 
Same ol' same ol'.
 
BTW, Carry, Rabi Antelman is on the same page as Gene Edward Veith:
 
       "Modern Fascism: Liquidating the Judeo-Christian Worldview.
 
Pesky Lutherans ;-)

70 posted on 06/27/2008 2:47:00 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: LomanBill
Seclorum is a Latin word that means "of or for the ages," essentially, "forever." The choice of the word has nothing directly to do with religion. It is about power.
71 posted on 06/27/2008 3:06:06 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie
>>Seclorum is a Latin word that means "of or for the ages,"

seclorum
Word mod cl/cul     
An internal 'cl' might be rendered by 'cul'
secul.orum           N      2 2 GEN P N                
seculum, seculi  N (2nd) N   [EEXCM]    Later
world/universe; secular/temporal/earthly/worldly affairs/cares/temptation;
 
1 John 4:4
4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.

The Church, which is the body of believers in Christ, is distinguished from the secular world.
 
 

 

72 posted on 06/27/2008 3:41:36 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Carry_Okie
...Hence the words sacoreum and seclorum; the sacred or holy spiritual world; and the temporal or secular world.
73 posted on 06/27/2008 3:49:48 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: LomanBill

The Hegelian Dialectic is practiced by just about everyone these days in various fields. Left and Right.


74 posted on 06/27/2008 4:03:06 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Carry_Okie

secul.orum (seclorum)

secul- +

(Latin: saecularis, pertaining to a generation or age; saeculum, saeclum, period of a man's life, generation; period of a hundred years)


secular
1. Worldly rather than spiritual.
2. Not specifically relating to religion or to a religious body: "They were playing secular music instead of sacred hymns."
3. Relating to or advocating secularism.
4. Not bound by monastic restrictions; especially, not belonging to a religious order (a reference to the clergy).
5. Occurring or observed once in an age or century.
6. Lasting from century to century. 7. Etymology: it was used in early Christian texts for the "temporal world"; as opposed to the "spiritual world"; and that was the sense in which its derived adjective Latin saecularis passed via Old French seculer into English.

The more familiar modern English "non-religious" meaning came into the language at about the 16th century.

secularism
1. A doctrine that rejects religion and religious considerations.
2. A secular spirit or tendency; especially, a system of political or social philosophy that rejects all forms of religious faith and worship.
2. The view that public education and other matters of civil policy should be conducted without the introduction of a religious element.

The fundamental principle of secularism is that, in his whole conduct, man should be guided exclusively by considerations derived from the present life itself. Anything that is above or beyond the present life should be entirely overlooked.

Whether God exists or not, whether the soul is immortal or not, are questions which at best cannot be answered, and on which consequently no motives of action can be based.

secularist
1. An advocate of secularism; someone who believes that religion should be excluded from government and education.
2. Generally a reference to an ideology that promotes the secular; as opposed to the religious, particularly within the public sphere.
secularistic
1. Leaning toward religious skepticism or indifference.
2. The view that religious considerations should be excluded from civil affairs or public education.
secularity
1. The condition or quality of being secular.
2. Something secular.
secularization
1. The transfer of property from ecclesiastical to civil possession.
2. A procedure of changing something (art or education or society or morality etc.) so it is no longer under the control or influence of religion.
3. The process of becoming secular; the separation of civil or educational institutions from ecclesiastical control.

Secularization is also defined by some as the process in which mystical, sacred, and otherworldly explanations, outlooks, beliefs, interests, and concerns are replaced by rational, critical evaluations and by pragmatic and utilitarian standards.

secularize, secularizing, secularized
1. To transfer something from a religious to a nonreligious use, or from control by a religious body to control by the state or a lay body.
2. To remove the religious dimension or element from something, or otherwise make it secular.
3. To make secular; separate from a religious or a spiritual connection or influences.
4. To make worldly or unspiritual; to imbue with secularism.
 

75 posted on 06/27/2008 4:03:25 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Borges

>>The Hegelian Dialectic is practiced by
>>just about everyone these days in various
>>fields. Left and Right.

Yes, it is.

Chinese... Communist... Capitalists.


76 posted on 06/27/2008 4:14:40 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Eddiehaskell7

We’ve lost thousands of lives in Iraq. We need to at least get some cheap oil out of the deal.


77 posted on 06/28/2008 2:27:08 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters
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To: BinaryBoy

A stable ME with a super-power in the middle might do this. We’ll have to bite it in the mean time.


78 posted on 06/28/2008 2:31:48 AM PDT by eyedigress
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