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1 posted on 05/25/2008 7:52:30 PM PDT by jyro
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43 posted on 05/25/2008 9:32:58 PM PDT by cyberella
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The republicans are expecting this and this is their contingency?

Why don’t they run a candidate who actually holds the values they state to be their foundation?


47 posted on 05/25/2008 9:43:30 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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That was a moonbatty kind of remark.


53 posted on 05/25/2008 9:58:29 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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Unless, and until, the GOP voids its leadership, removing them with all due shame... When they pull down the Bakerite big tent and install known Reaganites, returning fully to Reagan Conservatism... Until then, nothing.
66 posted on 05/25/2008 10:35:26 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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I’m not voting for McWhacked, but I’m not cheering for Big Ear Socialist. What happens happens. I won’t be happy with either clown winning.

There are downsides to both awful candidates winning.

The downsides to McWhacked winning are:

1) then the RINO Pubs feel they no longer need conservatives to win, and the takeover of the party by “Country Club” Pubs will be complete, and conservatives will have no home and no party. The party will officially be “Democrat Lite”.

2) the disaster that McWhacked’s policies do to the country will be blamed on Pubs.

3) Pub Congress Critters will not oppose McWhacked’s insane Liberal policies, because he will be the leader of the party.

If Obama wins:

1) the Pubs won’t be blamed for the terrible things that happen to the country.

2) conservatives will still have a voice in the Pubbie party.

3) Pub Congress Critters will provide at least some opposition to his Socialist legislative plans.


68 posted on 05/25/2008 10:44:07 PM PDT by webschooner
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Just the fact that we are having this debate shows McCain
does not have a chance.


69 posted on 05/25/2008 10:46:45 PM PDT by right way right
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I get your point: if McCain wins, we’re screwed, as we watch the GOP move ever farther to the Left, and if Obama wins, we’re well and truly screwed for four years, but perhaps in the interim we can seize the party back from the “moderates” and throw out the bastards running as “Republicans” today.

This isn’t like cutting off your nose to spite your face, though; more like cutting off some far more important body part...


70 posted on 05/25/2008 10:52:01 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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Ive have heard several present this arguement and tend to agree. Although not 100% sure of the outcome.

A pres. McCain will ruin the conservative movement..he will set the agenda for the elections of 2010. Republican candidates will be less conservative and we will lose more seats in congress.

Pres Obama will be a disaster no doubt about it. But this might be a silver lining for 2010 and beyond.
Just maybe the GOP/RNC will grow a spine, listen to the base, clean out the current scum and get some new blood in the leadership.

The point so many make, and its valid, is Obama will destroy our country...true if we dont have an opposition.

Either way we lose...but which way will we recover?

Tough choices for us all.


72 posted on 05/25/2008 11:00:04 PM PDT by rrrod
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"Republicans long term gain if Obamanation wins"

I agree with the statement. In all likelihood, we will win back the Congress in 2010 if Obama wins and then spends the next two years royally mucking up the nation, just like Billy J Clinton did.

No, I don't want him to win, but I don't see a calamity if he does. Americans are just too sensible to let the worst leftist inclinations of his happen.

74 posted on 05/25/2008 11:10:28 PM PDT by tom h
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You bring up some good points and I myself am struggling with what to do about this. I think if it was anyone besides Obama I would sit it out or do a write in, and I still may..but the fact is, Obama is dangerous and foolish and the absolute WORST possible candidate at this particular time in history.

The only thing I agree with McRino about is his stance on not pulling the plug on the troops..but beyond that he is a liberal as far as I’m concerned.

I never would have guessed we would have a democrap nominee that was so far left it made Hillary look moderate!! insanity!!

We are doomed either way if you ask me...outlook hazy.


78 posted on 05/26/2008 2:42:20 AM PDT by BootsOfEscaping
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I agree completely.


79 posted on 05/26/2008 3:34:23 AM PDT by AdaGray
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"Obama should win this election so the nation can see the real differences..."

Oh yea. That ought to help.
80 posted on 05/26/2008 4:40:37 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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Suicidal bs.

The same bs was the reason idiots voter for PeroRat, and they gave us the Clintoons for 8 years. The 2000 Americans killed on 9/11 are a direct result of that suicidal/insane bs.

Then, we were told how electing Rats 2006 would help our country and our party. I’m still waiting for the better times with Pelosi, Reid and other rats running this country.

Why do people who claim to be conservatives pray and want us to lose elections? Suicidal maybe, pyschotic maybe or maybe they are the real RINO’s and hate a good America.


83 posted on 05/26/2008 7:45:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein Obama"Hama's" Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S.to Blame for 9/11")
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I'm sure that the GOP can succeed politically in Obama's new Caliphate; so expect the Party to see some long term benefit from a McCain loss.

</sarcasm>

85 posted on 05/26/2008 11:22:29 AM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment: It's not about sporting goods.)
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I don’t agree with you regarding GW. He doesn’t call the shots and he never was a conservative. That’s why I didn’t like his Daddy.

Some truth to your second paragraph except we don’t have to have Reagan like person in office. A real conservative will do. The Republican party leaders have done themselves in by not being honest with the voters; and they obvious moves to another agenda. We need real, sane and sound policy.

I don’t agree with your last paragraph because tit for tat isn’t going to do it. To hand the election to the enemy is well crazy. Instead of voting for McCain; we should find someone else to run. They are out there and they can still run. And it’s our country.

But, most of all I sincerely feel your frustration as to what is going on. It is painful to watch crooks, liars thieves and any other bad connotation that can be applied rip this country apart. It can change; however; but the people will have to band together to do it.


87 posted on 05/26/2008 10:22:45 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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