Posted on 03/23/2008 11:36:40 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny
Such fears caused Joyce Jimerson of Bellingham, Wash., a coordinator for a recycling-composting program affiliated with Washington State University, to make her yard an “edible garden,” with fruit trees and vegetables, in case supplies are threatened by oil shortages, climate change or economic collapse. “It’s all the same ball of wax, as far as I’m concerned,” she said.<<<
This one I can agree with.
When Scott was 15, he got careless with a power mower and lost a toe to it.
And I took a look at lawns and never wanted one again.
Why grow useless grass? When one could grow food and flowers.
I was glad when the hippies started planting the yards with “wildflowers”.
I think more and more people want to try survival preps, the hand writing is on the wall.
Y2K was only a training lesson.
God had his reasons for creating her like she is. And God made her perfect for us.
I think that I honestly believe that we do not go, until God thinks the time is right, not when we do.
I agree.
I am fearful of a society that kills babies, because they may not be perfect.......as we know with Terri Schivago [sp?], it is not just babies.
So am I. How well I remember the Terri threads.
Yes, they pushed Scott on through school and gave him a diploma for finishing high school, but he tried and did earn it by trying, even if he was not an A student
She would have been awarded a certificate of completion rather than a diploma at the end of the 12th grade. That's the same thing she will receive when she's finished with the 12th grade at home.
Years ago, when I found myself down, I always read this little story, Welcome To Holland, by Emily Perl Kingsley. It's half way down the page.
We all do what it takes to survive, that is our nature.
Very well said.
I will, thanks.
as it is a chat group, with no facts.
I avoid those.
An interesting site. Some stories I just pass over.
So can I.
I think more and more people want to try survival preps, the hand writing is on the wall.
I also believe that many will never tell anyone that they are doing survival preps. I imagine they would think that people would think that they were 'weird'. Lol
Y2K was only a training lesson.
Again, I agree.
Hubby went grocery shopping (he can stretch a dollar farther than I can) and he said my coffee grounds he bought last week cost $6.18 pound. Today it cost him $8.18 for the same bag. That is a huge increase.
We received this email from Mountain House a few minutes ago:
Quote:
Wendy, Mountain House #10 can sales have been very high so far this year. Up to this point Oregon Freeze Dry has been able to meet this increased level and we have not had to limit production in the Food Storage market segment. As you may or may not know, Oregon Freeze Dry*s business includes several market segments. Most of these market segments are now receiving orders at an increased rate as well; with the biggest surge in Government sales for freeze dried food products going to the troops.
Given these market trends it will be necessary to cap #10 can production now and to continue to do so for at least the next several months. We are working directly with Senior Management and Production Planning Groups, and they have given us the quantities to be allocated to #10 can production.
Based on today's outlook, new orders placed now could take up to 4 weeks to ship. However, starting in May please prepare for lead times of up to 12 weeks. We will keep you informed, as new information is made available to us as to when we We are maintaining high raw material inventories so as soon as freeze-drying capacity is available we can increase production.
This is going to be a difficult time for all of us and adds lots of extra steps (and stress) for us to enter, track and process orders. I know this will be difficult time for you as well, and I am very sorry. I appreciate your help getting us through this difficult time as smoothly as possible.
Thank you,
if you spend your life mourning the fact that you didn’t get to Italy, you may never be free to enjoy the very special, the very lovely things ... about Holland.<<<
How true.
I can understand how Welcome to Holland is a good picker upper, on those days a pick up is needed.
Thank you for the link, it is an interesting page.
The music and the brain is worth thinking about.
When the years add up, you will look back and be able to see that your life was real paths, steps that had you turned in another direction, you might well have been in Holland or any other spot, than where you were needed to be.
You are where God needs you to be and not at another place, where you would not be useful.
Yes, the M. Ark is an interesting place and I was listening to them, many years ago on the old Art Bell show, then they made good sense and her survival information is good.
The new Art Bell show, I cannot listen to.
I also posted a link last night that had some odd posts and and some good worth knowing information on it.
At the Flu Wiki, I ignored the flu talk and went for the food chat, it was useful.
It is worth while knowing about the flu pandemic and it is still a viable threat according to the World Health Organization.
I have been on the WHO mailing list for about 10 years, there are many things that most do not know exist and they are still out there and attacking the health of nations.
Bird flu is still killing birds and people, it is very definitely a threat.
Survival, to me, is as simple as surviving a job loss, or a storm or anything else that is thrown at us.
I’ve been there and done that, flash floods that locked us on the other side for a week, to a sick husband, who could not work for 2 years.
Hubby went grocery shopping (he can stretch a dollar farther than I can) and he said my coffee grounds he bought last week cost $6.18 pound. Today it cost him $8.18 for the same bag. That is a huge increase.<<<
Did you see post 1105 above, LOL, she talks of shrinking packages.
I checked my coffee can, the large one, has shrunk from 3 pounds to 2 pounds 2 ounces and costs more than I paid for 3 pounds, not that many years ago.
I know that I have had to alter the shopping list and it is a hardship, for Scott, as he is a ‘name brand ‘ buyer, by habit and
I am not.
Based on today’s outlook, new orders placed now could take up to 4 weeks to ship. However, starting in May please prepare for lead times of up to 12 weeks.<<<
Yes, that is a good indication of the number of people who are ordering.
Walton Feed.com, where I bought much of my food, in the run up to Y2K, was 18 months behind on their big orders.
I noticed after 9-11, they stopped the big sales that they had been having and started advising that they would need a longer time to ship.
For me, when I was ordering and they knew that it was my daily food supply, not storage only, they would have my order to me in a week. [from Idaho to Arizona]
You are where God needs you to be and not at another place, where you would not be useful.
Amen, and I put my faith in his judgment.
I did. We consumers are supposed to be idiots and not notice that a pound weight doesn't actually weigh a pound anymore.
I'm a brand named buyer myself, hubby is a price comparison shopper.
I've never listened to Art Bell.
Survival, to me, is as simple as surviving a job loss, or a storm or anything else that is thrown at us.
Same here. When hubby couldn't find work for a few months our food storage kept us from going hungry. We've replaced what we ate but at a substantially higher cost.
We consumers are supposed to be idiots and not notice that a pound weight doesn’t actually weigh a pound anymore.<<<
With today’s schooling, many of the shoppers do not know that there are 16 ounces in a pound.
LOL, I am not sure when I learned that fact, not as a child, I suspect.
Five children is a nice number for Italy and leaves you room for the one who really needed you.
Large families are so much better, I am not in favor of small families, as the single children do not appear to ever learn as much about surviving as a group does.
There were 5 of us, I was close to two of them, and now at last the 3 of us are close and Ray and Diana come here every year, at the same time.
Not bad for the two of them, who would never have planned to arrive the same day, for over 50 years, and I am glad, as they will one day need each other.
The other 2, well they are going to wish someday that they had walked a different path.
We had only the 2 of our own, but God seemed to always have a few other kids to run through the house, I have often thought that was why we couldn’t have other kids, too many that needed the contact, even for short periods.
LOL, learn to read the label, most of the ‘no name’ brands are canned by the same company that puts the fancy label on.
I prefer the Walmart canned corn, it has the most taste, to me, and I always thought that there were more kernals in the can.
It certainly is a good indicator. I was going to buy a case of canned butter from the Internet Grocer but they are temporarily out of stock.
I wouldn't doubt that one bit.
Five children is a nice number for Italy and leaves you room for the one who really needed you.
We are surely blessed in our home.
Large families are so much better, I am not in favor of small families, as the single children do not appear to ever learn as much about surviving as a group does.
There were seven kids in my family growing up and hubby had nine in his so we were used to large families.
I prefer the Walmart canned corn, it has the most taste, to me, and I always thought that there were more kernals in the can.
Hubby buys Great Value canned vegetables at Wal Mart and by the time I season them with butter and salt and pepper they taste just a good as Del Monte or the other more expensive brands.
Art Bell may well be the best talk show host there is, or he was in the old days.
I listened to him, before he went out on his own, when he was the late night host at KDWN, in Las Vegas.
He has a mind like mine, he wants to know ‘everything’, and always managed to ask the next question that was in my mind.
He did not have an agenda, so you could learn from his program.
The current version of his show, has an agenda and it is not a
love God or America. [In my opinion]
I will not go to sleep with the current host on the air, as I do not want that crap in my sub-conscious mind.
Art does fill in and he is still good, but I suspect that he did not choose his guests and his heart is not in the interview.
I am glad that you have been able to replace your food supply, it is important to have that safety net.
I am not able to keep the police scanner working, too many people on the internet, I suspect. San Diego just had a 4 or 5 year old mexican girl snatched, reported she was yelling “Policia” as they stuffed her in the car and drove away.
Guess it is as well, that I am not there, I would be out looking for him too.
And they are looking for a 25 year old who has already killed today and threatened 2 others.
And that is how quick a disaster struck 2 or more families in San Diego today.
Hubby buys Great Value canned vegetables at Wal Mart and by the time I season them with butter and salt and pepper they taste just a good as Del Monte or the other more expensive brands. <<<
Could you hear me laughing?
A wise husband you have.
Have you tried the dehydrated butters?
I did years ago and they were ok, think that they are called ‘butter buds’ in the stores.
With both of you coming from large families, you were meant to have a large one.
I have never had a complaint on any of the food that I ordered from walton feed.com.
I am glad that you have been able to replace your food supply, it is important to have that safety net.
I don't want to think what would have happened to us if we didn't have that net.
San Diego just had a 4 or 5 year old mexican girl snatched, reported she was yelling “Policia” as they stuffed her in the car and drove away.
Oh no, no, no. Poor baby. Dear Lord please keep her safe.
Have you seen that movie, "No country for old men" There's a part in it where he(Tommy Lee Jones) is reading a newspaper about what is happening in our country today concerning drugs and violence. Where he talks about how kids stopped saying yes ma'am and no ma'am. It's a good movie but very violent.
I have to get my little girl in the tub then prepare for her classes tomorrow. I'll try to get back after classes.
Good night, God bless and stay safe.
Art Bell isn’t a 9-11 truther is he? <<<
No, he is not one of them, I have heard him say that he thought it was brought down by the terrorists, but he could do a good interview with one and let them talk, without leading them and then be sure we all knew where he stood.
Art did several years of Military service, Navy or Air Force.
Noury, the main guy that took over when Art retired, is a truther, to my way of thinking, he is a lot of things that I do not care to listen too.
I got started listening to the San Diego scanner, last year during the fires and then came the holidays and I was not in a mood to listen to talk radio replays or bragging about the wonderful holidays, so I went to the scanner and now, I don’t care to listen to the election news, I know who I would never vote for and won’t vote third ticket, as I did that when Perot ran and got Clinton.
LOL, so I don’t have to listen to the radio, much.
Don’t own a tv, hate the things.
Can’t go out, so no movies.
I get more real news off the scanners, then you will on your news programs.
I just checked the 3 Local news sites in San diego and almost none of what I hear is in the news, I promise you that we are not getting the important news from the media.
Gas stations being robbed, is not news, why don’t they talk about the 100 to 400 people who are fighting in the street?
Last night were the largest crowds fighting in the streets, all night long in San Diego.
Hug your daughter for me.
MASTER MIX (like Bisquick)
9 c. sifted all-purpose flour
1/3 c. baking powder
1 Tbsp. salt
2 tsp. cream of tartar
4 Tbsp. sugar
1 c. nonfat dry milk
2 c. shortening which does not require
refrigeration
Sift together 3 times the flour, baking powder,
salt, cream of tartar,
sugar and dry milk. Cut in shortening with pastry
blender or 2 knives
until mixture looks like coarse corn meal. Store
in covered container
at room temperature. Makes 13 cups mix.
Note: To measure the Master Mix, pile it lightly
into cup and level
off with spatula.
— Mimi
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http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/, Mimi’s Cyber
Kitchen, the WWW’s first food
portal
[granny note: If you find a Mimi group, join and you will get good recipes, she may have retired]
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