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USB 3.0 in Pipeline: Where's FireWire?
Insanely Great Mac ^ | September 29th 2007 | Remy Davison

Posted on 12/07/2007 11:38:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: dayglored

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21 posted on 12/08/2007 2:14:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, December 7, 2007_____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Swordmaker

I’m still waiting for USB 2.0 to live up to its current speed claims. And can we get rid of this ridiculous bandwidth-sharing architecture? Each port should be max speed, not a fraction of max speed.


22 posted on 12/08/2007 3:49:14 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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USB was designed from the ground up to be CHEAP. That’s a good idea when it’s only supposed to run keyboards an mice with a tiny bandwidth and power requirement. The data transmission algorithm didn’t have to be very efficient and several devices can share the same controller without anyone noticing.

But then they tried to make USB fast, kind of hard to do given the architecture. Let’s stick a V8 in a Trabbi.

Firewire was designed from the ground up to be FAST. Efficient transmission algorithm, high bandwidth, no host needed and more than enough power to run a desktop hard drive.


23 posted on 12/08/2007 5:09:36 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat; zeugma

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24 posted on 12/08/2007 5:47:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, December 7, 2007_____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Terpfen

When I was moving the files off the 4 GB that I’d pulled from the dead rev B iMac, I used one of those outboard cases, which I’d picked a while back for something else; it does both USB 2.0 and Firewire (400). I moved the contents twice, and the Firewire was roughly half-again faster.


25 posted on 12/08/2007 5:52:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, December 7, 2007_____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yeah, Firewire lives up to its name. I had an external hard drive hooked up to my laptop via Firewire up until the port flaked out. I really, truly miss the speed.


26 posted on 12/08/2007 6:44:17 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Then they need to take the time to correct USB’s flaws with USB 3.0.


27 posted on 12/08/2007 6:44:54 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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Then they need to take the time to correct USB’s flaws with USB 3.0.

They're going to want to be backwards compatible, so just like Windows, all the baggage will slow it down. Given that this won't really hit the streets big-time until 2009, eSATA will probably have already won that high-speed niche.

28 posted on 12/08/2007 7:51:36 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

eSATA is still a fantasy as far as I’m concerned. I have yet to see a single computer that supports it.

It’s a shame: my WD MyBook has an eSATA connector. Too bad my 3-year-old Inspiron 6000 doesn’t.


29 posted on 12/08/2007 8:19:04 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: dayglored

“FireWire support for Windows was intentionally done sloppily so that USB could have a fighting chance despite its disadvantages.”

Sloppily? They downright crippled it with XP SP2 and have YET to fix it. Put a FW800 device on the bus, and it reverts to FW100. They did finally release a patch that fixes 1 direction, but still cripples the other at 400. I have no idea if they’ve fixed it in Vista, and have no intention of finding out.

FW has a clear advantage in CPU overhead and transfers where timing is critical. Digital audio is where it’s really gained a major foothold. I’m running discrete 38 channels of 44.1/24 bit audio via firewire myself, and CPU overhead’s barely a blip.


30 posted on 12/08/2007 8:19:34 PM PST by whatexit
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To: SunkenCiv

Now is that 4.8 Gibibits/sec or 4.8 Gigabits? I may have to sue.


31 posted on 12/08/2007 8:28:48 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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32 posted on 12/09/2007 5:12:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, December 7, 2007_____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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