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No Stars Shine in This Dark Galaxy
Universe Today ^ | June 14th, 2007 | Unattributed

Posted on 06/14/2007 8:50:35 PM PDT by annie laurie

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Interesting.
1 posted on 06/14/2007 8:50:38 PM PDT by annie laurie
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To: KevinDavis; SunkenCiv

Ping of possible interest.


2 posted on 06/14/2007 8:51:27 PM PDT by annie laurie (All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
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To: annie laurie

These guys are telling us that “dark matter” is undetectable and yet they’ve found a whole galaxy made out of it????


3 posted on 06/14/2007 8:54:44 PM PDT by rickdylan
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Here's to most detailed picture of it to date.

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4 posted on 06/14/2007 8:55:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: rickdylan
Exclusive photo of VIRGOHI21 galaxy:


5 posted on 06/14/2007 8:57:20 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: cripplecreek; FormerACLUmember

A picture is worth a thousand words ;-)


6 posted on 06/14/2007 9:04:31 PM PDT by annie laurie (All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
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To: annie laurie

Captain, Captain, all the stars have gone out!


7 posted on 06/14/2007 9:15:59 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: annie laurie

Darth Sidious’ summer place.


8 posted on 06/14/2007 9:29:02 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: rickdylan

We detect the effects of dark matter. In this case a regular galaxy has undergone a collision with... nothing. It turns out the nothing is dark matter. Even Hubble shows no stars in the background of the region. It would be detectable by radio frequency, though, which Arecibo did.


9 posted on 06/14/2007 9:34:37 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: annie laurie; 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
Thanks Annie for the ping.
 
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10 posted on 06/14/2007 10:28:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: gcruse

In their own minds at least....


11 posted on 06/15/2007 2:19:39 AM PDT by rickdylan
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To: rickdylan

Oh, sorry. I didn’t realize I was responding to a creationist. It’s easier for some to toss out their rational facilities in favor of invisible people in the sky than interpret radio signals reaching us from space.


12 posted on 06/15/2007 6:43:27 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse

We understand, or think we do, the mechanisms driving the birth and death of “real” galaxies.

What forces would drive the formation of dark matter galaxies?


13 posted on 06/15/2007 7:53:46 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Diversity in theory is the enemy of diversity in practice.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Dark matter dominated the early Universe too, hovering around normal matter in great halos, concentrating it together with its gravity. As the first stars gathered together inside these halos of dark matter, a process known as molecular hydrogen cooling helped them collapse down into stars.
14 posted on 06/15/2007 8:14:55 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
If this stuff (dark matter) is 95% of the universe, why aren't we having to vacuum it up off our carpets thrice daily?

Aside from that, the question of it (dark matter) actually solving the problem it's supposed to solve is a total joke. Our sun and Alpha Centauri could be modeled accurately, at least as far as scale is concerned, by two dust motes, 1/100" in diameter each, and four miles apart. Gravity plainly can't hold anything together at that scale. Moreover, multiplying the mass of that system by 20 to include "dark matter" would amount to such a dust mote every fifth of a mile. A fifth of a mile is two of those little signs you might notice on the highway; the effective gravitational pull between two dust motes that far away from eachother is ZERO.

15 posted on 06/15/2007 3:47:37 PM PDT by rickdylan
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You are so very wrong with your thought experiment. It is clear you do not understand physics and your grasp of math is questionable.


16 posted on 06/17/2007 12:25:01 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: gcruse

are you normally this short tempered ?


17 posted on 06/17/2007 6:06:08 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

I made an honest reply to a poster’s question, who then revealed disingenuous reasons for asking it. On realizing what had happened, I expressed my distaste for his embrace of ignorance. So sue me.


18 posted on 06/17/2007 6:14:27 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: doc30
You are so very wrong with your thought experiment. It is clear you do not understand physics and your grasp of math is questionable.

My college degrees were in mathematics. Of all that coursework, the thing which has been most valuable over the years is basic logic, which is usually the thing missing in junk/democrat science variants ncluding evolutionism, "dark matter", "big bang" and numerous similar items.

19 posted on 06/17/2007 8:08:25 PM PDT by rickdylan
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I expressed my distaste for his embrace of ignorance.

oh - I get it - youre one of those fellows who thinks he's "in charge" of his life.

enjoy the illusion

So sue me.

and waste precious time speaking with gracious people - no thanks

20 posted on 06/17/2007 8:08:38 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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