Posted on 02/01/2007 3:57:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv
I saw it about a month ago. Truly remarkable the way this one guy, using stones, sticks and rope and simple techniques of leverage and gravity can demonstrate how to move a 19,000 lb block horizontally and vertically by himself.
He thinks Stonehenge could have been built this way without a lot of manpower and the Pyramids as well.
I hope we can all agree that "spacemen" didn't build it or teach them the technology to do so.
Said Bob, fishing for freepers who believe in extra-terrestials
http://www.leechvideo.com/video/view1672838.html
There's a video here.
It wouldn't be an impediment for most of the stones in the Great Pyramid. However, there are plenty of examples -- such as the 200+ ton stones used for the Sphinx and Valley temples, and a 600+ ton statue of Ramesses II, which crushed one or more of the ancient moving men -- where the technique definitely would exceed the capacity.
Also, I remember stacking square wooden blocks when I was a kid, and getting them above three feet is challenging. With a multi-ton pendulum swinging from the wooden Murphy Mover, there's really not much chance that this technique would be adequate for lifting the stones of the pyramids.
My view remains that Davidovits is right.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1777639/posts?page=2#2
Nice try, Bob. Just for that, I'm sending my Reticulan friends over tonight to melt your brain.
from Biblical Archaeology Review:Kites lift an obeliskMaureen Clemmons, a business consultant who has spent 4 years on the project, says the idea for using wind power to move heavy objects came to her in 1997 after she read a magazine article speculating on how the ancient Egyptians had moved stones that weighed about 5,000 pounds each. She was inspired by tales of Viking ships sailing across land on log rollers, using wind power. In 1999, she brought the idea to scientists at the California Institute of Technology. Two people flew the 30-foot kite, fitted with an elaborate system of pulleys, and took less than 5 minutes to raise the 6,900 pound concrete obelisk four times.
How to Raise an ObeliskAn aeronautics team at the California Institute of Technology is testing a new idea: that the Egyptians may have used a kite (or wind sail) and pulleys to move heavy objects like obelisks and pyramid blocks. Last June, a team led by Caltech aeronautical engineer Mory Gharib used the kite-and-pulley system to lift a 15-foot-long, 6,900-pound concrete obelisk into a standing position. Gharib told Archaeology Odyssey that this same setup could lift up to 16,000 pounds. Of course, none of this proves that the Egyptians actually used kites to transport stones, a point that Gharib readily acknowledges. The purpose of his experiment, he said, is only to show that the system works and that the Egyptians, if they had kites, might have raised obelisks in this manner.
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>>My view remains that Davidovits is right.
Ditto. The most puzzling thing about his theory is why it remains just a theory!
When one considers that Zahi "Zowie" Hawass runs everything in Egypt, and that the least little transgression (which could be quite arbitrary) gets you kicked out, and that it's a Moslem country to boot, that ain't much of a mystery. ;')
Yikes!
Of Stonehenge Pyramids and Man:Irrespective of the size of the workforce available, human muscle power is in my opinion, not up to the task. However I believe that human intelligence is.
Egyptian Stone Conveyor
by Gordon Pipes
Let us look at the task in more detail; 2.6 million divided by 20 years gives us a more understandable figure of 130,000 blocks of stone per year. Let us now assume that the workers worked 365 days per year for 20m years without a single day of rest. 130000 divided by 365 days equals 356 stone blocks per day. Assuming that the workers COULD drag blocks of stone along on sledges for a total of 12 hours per day. 356 divided by 12 equals at least 29 blocks of stone per hour or 1 block every 2 minutes.
We will forget for the moment that 2 other smaller pyramids plus temples, walkways, etc, were constructed at the same time. And that several very large wooden boats were buried in large pits hacked out of solid stone.Forgotten TechnologyI have found that only simple wooden tools and gravity is needed for moving heavy weight. Nothing rigid is necessary. You do not need to lift weight to move it from place to place. Stones make excellent fulcrums and pivot points... I found that the heavier an object is the easier it is to balance it. Since mass has to obey the laws of physics, it resists movement and once it is set in motion it resists change. Also, once a weight is close to balance on a single point, rotation can be initiated and the object becomes stable.
by W.T. Wallington
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