Posted on 11/17/2006 8:06:18 AM PST by SeƱor Zorro
LOL! That was your argument for SCO winning their fiasco as well.
Which is what, exactly? Even Ballmer's pulling a McBride. You'd think he would've learned from SCO's mistakes.
SCO's claims of infringement weren't ever substantiated by senior counsel at the Free Software Foundation that I recall. Please show they were, or that I ever claimed they were, or retract your bogus claim.
Ask the senior counsel at the FSF, he enumerated 283 possible violations in the kernel alone. I read somewhere the Microsoft patents included in that were around 2 dozen.
MS or others can sue until the cows come home but it ain't going to change the reality on the ground. Do you really think it possible to sue linux out of existence? Now it would be like trying to claim that you owned the idea of binary logic or interrupt driven IO. Maybe you do, maybe you don't, but the world is going to go on using it regardless.
To be fair, all 5,802 issued Microsoft patents are available to the public, as published by the USPTO. Comparing the code base to the issued MS patents would answer the question what, if any, patents are being infringed. But whose job is that?
On one hand, Microsoft could do the comparison. On the other hand, I would think it prudent for a company to conduct an IP landscape survey to understand liabilities (if any) in bringing a product to market.... but hey... that's just me.
Of course not. Patents are simply a form of intellectual property, and Linux doesn't get a free pass.
What bogus claim? When the SCO suit started you were howling that "even the FSF admitted that Linux infringed on patents." You've been harping on that point ever since.
No one has ever substantiated it because it's never been proven true. Now you're claiming it all over again--again without any proof. Ballmer's pulling a McBride by throwing a vague reference to Linux infringing on some IP that is never referenced. Think this claim has any more credibility than SCO's? I don't.
That's pretty funny, considering the SCO lawsuit started in early 2003, and the patent study wasn't even released till end of summer 2004. Your claims are obviously bogus, as usual.
OK - you know you and MS sound a bit like John Kerry. He's always going on about how what the Swift Boat Veterans said was untrue, was defamatory blah, blah, blah.
OK so have at it in court.
Someone who's always saying he's going to sue you and then doesn't is either very indecisive or doesn't have much of a case. Usually, of course, it's the latter.
FYI John Kerry runs Linux on his servers just like the DNC and most democrats, and the Linux crowd is who is doing all the denying about these patent infringements. Even the FSF has sudden amnesia about their own study LOL.
Microsoft is putting the possible infringers on notice, as necessary. Red Hat for example can't say "we had no idea" at some point in the future.
Actually, a huge percentage of hosting services run Linux. This is probably because the Linux systems are more reliable. It's not a Democrat philosophy, but simple fact if you want something hosted reliably and well. Here are the top 10 most reliable hosting services:
Half are Linux, all but three are open source, all are UNIX. The funny part is the only services on this list who are running a proprietary OS (Solaris) are owned by those foreigners you hate so much.
BTW, want to see what Kerry actually himself uses?
Yes they can. Microsoft would have to tell them exactly what it's claimed that they're infringing for the clock to start ticking. Again, all large software infringes on something, so you can't expect every software vendor to suddenly shut its doors because they have the knowledge that they may be theoretically infringing on a patent.
Software patents, especially of the poor quality of most of them, are damaging to all small software developers. They serve to make sure only the large development houses can stay in business.
This is about Microsoft and Novell assuring business clients that there will be no lawsuits if the business clients use linux, particularly SUSE linux.
Businesses are FAR more cautious than ordinary consumers when there is a possibility of lawsuits based on intellectual property claims. Linux stands little chance of gaining widespread acceptance in the business community until and unless underlying intellectual property disputes are resolved.
This partnership agreement in a welcome and necessary step in the maturing and mainstreaming of linux in the business world.
This is about Microsoft and Novell assuring business clients that there will be no lawsuits if the business clients use linux, particularly SUSE linux.
Businesses are FAR more cautious than ordinary consumers when there is a possibility of lawsuits based on intellectual property claims. Linux stands little chance of gaining widespread acceptance in the business community until and unless underlying intellectual property disputes are resolved.
This partnership agreement is a welcome and necessary step in the maturing and mainstreaming of linux in the business world.
The official Republican sites RNC.ORG and GOP.COM both use Windows. And no, I don't care what Kerry uses in his office nor do I care to see a picture of him, ever.
I agree, too bad the rest of "the linux community" is outraged and wishing the destruction of Novell now.
Truth is that unlike other items, there is absolutely no standards (other than there not being an existing patent) when it comes to software.
In theory, I could copy a piece of code from the Internet that displays "Hello World" and get a patent on it (assuming somebody else hasn't done that yet).
Is it possible that the Linux kernel could have infringements? Possibly. Even antiRepublicrat mentioned that his clean-room program could very well be violating at least one patent--so it's a possibility.
OTOH Iggle, what has MS come up with that's actually innovative besides Microsoft Bob and Clippy?
According to the patent office alone it's 5,000+ things as another poster mentioned. If you feel you can invalidate those claims I suggest you get started.
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