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'Go Ahead, Put Marks on Me' (GMA Interview w/Kim - DukeLax Ping
ABC News ^ | October 30, 2006 | CHRIS FRANCESCANI and EAMON McNIFF

Posted on 10/30/2006 3:04:46 AM PST by abb

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To: Repub4bush

....which brings up another point. Kim may not have associated Mangum's statement with an idea of her actually wanting the bruises, but now she's spinning it. At the time, Kim may have associated it with something she was doing to Mangum, such as taking her money and/or trying to dump her out of the car. So now she brings it up as though it was said in context of a plan by Mangum to cry rape and her statement that it chilled her to the bone and she intended to tell the authorities about it is embellishment that serves two purposes: 1). It associates the statement to a plan regarding the rape instead of to her own behavior toward Mangum (trying to dump her after possibly taking her money); and 2). Provides a means by which, because of 1)., she can insinuate her importance to the story even further while simultanously humanizing herself (chilled to the bone.tell authorities).

It may be true that Mangum said this, but I seriously doubt she said it in connection with an intention to cry rape or that Kim right then and there decided to tell authorities about it, and I certainly don't believe she was "chilled to the bone" unless it was in fear of Mangum's pimp.


141 posted on 10/30/2006 1:20:10 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

Any guesses as to what will be revealed in part 2 tomorrow morning? :-)


142 posted on 10/30/2006 1:22:01 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: JLS

The Bar has no valid reason to wait. The steps Liefong has already taken are a done deal. Whether he is elected is irrelevant to their oversight function.


143 posted on 10/30/2006 1:22:42 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Neverforget01

She has a straight job now - can't remember what it is.


144 posted on 10/30/2006 1:23:28 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: JLS

I basically agree with your assertions as to Kim's statements, but I have to draw the line before attributing any nobleness to her actions. Smart, yes, but noble or admirable in terms of character, no. Remember, she made her statement to police before this story exploded so there was no local pressure on her at that time to hedge her statements in favor of Mangum. When the local pressure began, she told AP she thought "something" happened. She was already committed in her police statement that there was no rape, so she could not come right out and contradict that, but she got as close to it as she could.


145 posted on 10/30/2006 1:31:01 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle
The Bar has no valid reason to wait. The steps Liefong has already taken are a done deal. Whether he is elected is irrelevant to their oversight function.

No reason other than MILF Man's mom is the president of the Durham County Bar Association. http://www.couchandtaibi.com/fcouch.htm

146 posted on 10/30/2006 1:32:15 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Sue Perkick
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147 posted on 10/30/2006 1:32:28 PM PST by maggief
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To: JLS

I think she's doing what she perceives serves her own interests, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as she doesn't cross the line into falsehoods and fabrications. In dealing with someone like Kim, one can only rely on her as to facts she observed. Her opinions and perceptions are not trustworthy inasmuch as they are motivated by extreme self-interest to present a good image, so that aspect of her presentation must always be kept separate from her statements of facts and observations.

I don't think Kim considers herself completely black since she is half Asian, something she has pointed out a couple times, so while she would bend to pressure from Durham blacks who support Mangum, I doubt that she embraces any solidarity or much identity with them. Brushing the Durham yoke of Liefong and black racists off her shoulders, she is free to tell the truth. If singing like a bird advances her own agenda, no harm no foul - as long as she sticks to the truth.


148 posted on 10/30/2006 1:46:57 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

http://www.doc.state.nc.us/admin/DOCorgchart.pdf

Look who works for the NC DOC....

Finesse Couch


149 posted on 10/30/2006 1:48:56 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Neverforget01

Kim has no obligation to tell anybody anything. Besides, we knew as much as we needed to about this case from the discovery the defense received. Kim's main contribution were known long ago.

She kept silent while her fate was in Liefong's hands, meaning the prosecution of her violation of probation case. I'm sure she heard about what happened to Elmostafa. Anybody with half a brain would do the same thing - shut up until out of personal jeopardy.


150 posted on 10/30/2006 1:51:39 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: maggief

ROFLOL!

He loves Transformers & everyday is Mother's Day. What more could a girl want?


151 posted on 10/30/2006 1:51:47 PM PST by Sue Perkick (The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
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To: maggief

What a load of BS.


152 posted on 10/30/2006 1:55:54 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: JLS

I agree.


153 posted on 10/30/2006 1:58:45 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: pepperhead

"Valid" was my operative word. :>


154 posted on 10/30/2006 2:05:06 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: maggief

Any excuse to put that pic up, huh?


155 posted on 10/30/2006 2:12:11 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb; Howlin; Protect the Bill of Rights; xoxoxox; All

WTF?


http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=triangle&id=4709220



Assault Case Against Durham Officers Dismissed
WTVD Eyewitness News

(10/30/06 - DURHAM) - The assault case against two fired Durham Police officers was dismissed Monday.


Gary Lee and Scott Tanner faced a Wake County judge Monday to answer to simple assault charges that cost them their jobs last month.

Lee and Tanner were fired two months after an employee at Blinco's Sports Bar said the men beat him July 20. After conducting an internal investigation, Durham Police Chief Steve Chalmers said Tanner instigated a fight with the cook outside the Glenwood Avenue bar.

Monday in court, the charges against the two former officers were dismissed on a technicality. The defense attorney claimed the prosecutors didn't establish jurisdiction, and the judge agreed.

The charges against the Lee and Tanner were dropped.


156 posted on 10/30/2006 2:13:02 PM PST by maggief
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To: Jezebelle
The Bar has no valid reason to wait. The steps Liefong has already taken are a done deal. Whether he is elected is irrelevant to their oversight function.

Sure but it is human nature to take your time and see if the problem will solve itself.

I doubt the NC Bar could have had a hearing on this matter by now and taken action against Nifong. As you know there is an investigation, due process right for Nifong etc. They are likely investigating the complaints they have received.

If Nifong is defeated, they can take the far easier actions of sanctioning a private citizen attorney. If Nifong wins, they probably are on track in their investigation.
157 posted on 10/30/2006 2:13:43 PM PST by JLS
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http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/504521.html

Modified: Oct 30, 2006 05:02 PM

Charges dropped in police assault case


158 posted on 10/30/2006 2:14:45 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Amazing, how can the Wake Co. DA not have jurisdiction on a case that happened in Wake Co? Is the bar one that strattles the county line and there is some question about who was in what county?


159 posted on 10/30/2006 2:17:54 PM PST by JLS
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To: Jezebelle
It may be true that Mangum said this, but I seriously doubt she said it in connection with an intention to cry rape or that Kim right then and there decided to tell authorities about it, and I certainly don't believe she was "chilled to the bone" unless it was in fear of Mangum's pimp.

Right, but it is a common term used in the hood, to let someone know you are going to press charges of assault. So to me if this was said, it was to let Kim know, Mangum would have her arrested for assault. Nothing to do with the Duke guys, at that time. Now Kim is telling it as if it is premeditated to assert the rape claim.

Did I make sense? LOL

160 posted on 10/30/2006 2:18:06 PM PST by Repub4bush (Tony is the Best Press Secretary Ever!!!!! (Sorry Ari, I liked you too, but you ain't Tony!))
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