Explaining the Shooting of Governor John Connally

Shown on FreeRepublic for the first time. | October 25, 2006 | Bill Charleston

[mtbopfuyn]

I didn't believe it when it happened, I believe it even less today.

Have you been to the book depository? I think they've blocked the window area off now days but at one time you could walk up and stick your head out. Granted the trees had grown by the time we visited it, but I had never thought Oswald was the lone gunman and after crouching down and sighting out the window I'm even more convinced there were others.

[Al Gator]

I agree with what you are saying.

On the other hand, let's be honest, if you were going to take a shot at the prez, would a carcano be your first choice? Even in '63, when a lot better was available for almost the same price?

Oswald was a willing participant. Folks forget he shot and killed that cop when he left the bookstore.

I just don't think a man with his limited ability, with a marginal rifle, (carcanos are NOT known sniper quality, no matter what anyone says)could do what everyone says he did.

IMHO.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

Do you know what you are talking about? I think not.

Part of that is true

[mtbopfuyn]

You'd be guessing wrong.

[Al Gator]

I got to drive past it once in 1997, but that was it.

I'm convinced there other shooters. I just can't believe he pulled it off himself with the gear he had.

Chicken grease on his fingers and all.

[SoCal Pubbie]

"None of them, not one, could be made to perform the way Oswald's did."

Not true.

"Pristine bullet my arse."

The billet was not pristine.

[Al Gator]

"Do you know what you are talking about? I think not.

Part of that is true"

??Ok, I'll bite, which part??

[BILL_C]

WHO ORDERED THIS

My guess is LBJ.

REPLY: IF the investigations got something this simple so wrong, then HOW is it possible that they simply ignored a credible witness like Roy Kellerman?

I gave an earlier link to an American Heritage Article on Why We Still Don't believe the Warren Commission. The article states that one of the main reasons for the Warren Commission was to remove suspicion from LBJ, the most obvious one to order the killing, and surely the one with the power to fix an investigation.

Unless you have NEVER looked at the Warren Commission findings, you have to know that the silliness they pulled could only have happened with a lot of armtwisting.

Now Gerald Ford is still alive. I hope he finds out before he dies that he'll either be judgedby History as a fool, or as a co-conspirator.

This just didn't happen, it was crisis managed all the way. AND PEOPLE DID TALK!

[Al Gator]

I know the billet wasn't pristine, but the bullet was.

When I say pristine, it wasn't shattered, mushroomed, chopped off, etc, the way a bullet should be having been where it was said that bullet went.

It was SLIGHTLY misshapen, like what would happen had the rifle been test fired into a pool. You can still find pictures of it.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[Al Gator]

Hear, Hear.

The Warren Commission was a retro-9/11 commission. Deja Vu all over again.

If you thought the 9/11 commission was a twisted car wreck, the Warren Commission was worce. Squabbling and backbiting all over the place. When they announced their findings, Specter became a laughing stock.

People forget stuff over time.

[Al Gator]

worce = worse, good grief.

[Eastbound]

Here's an interesting tidbit:

GRASSY KNOLL SPECIAL

More about it here.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Bull. ALL shots came from the TSBD. All one has to do to understand the assassination is to look at John Connally's wounds. The oblong entry wound in his back (No one disputes that Connally was shot from behind) shows the bullet was tumbling AFTER IT PASSED THOUGH KENNEDY'S BODY.

The vast majority of witnesses at the time stated the shots came from direction of the TSBD building. There were no shots form any other place.

[Al Gator]

Wow, I do not remember this thing! I learn something new every day.

Makes sense to me.

LBJ was definitely capable of all the things he was accused of doing.

[Jim Noble]

It seems to me that a key, really the only key issue left, is, "why do the conspirators keep silence now?"

I know the moonbats think it's because Amerikka is run by a fascist business-mafia-racist alliance, and that they killed JFK because he was good. "They killed him because he was good" is the theme of most conspiracy literature.

But this makes no sense, on many levels. Many, many people, some of them important, must have been involved. It's been more than 40 years. For certain, the combination of a guilty conscience and the ability to profit would have turned up the story by now.

But what if the conspirators thought not that they did something bad (killing someone because he was good), but that they did something good?

Suppose that Richard Helms and J. Edgar Hoover (for example) came upon solid evidence of a sexual liason with a Soviet agent? In 1962-3, this would have led to impeachment, and a public Senate trial.

Suppose they went to the family, and said, "You can have a dead hero instead of a disgraced ex-President", and suppose Bobby agreed?

THIS would provide motivation for the conspirators to do the deed and keep silent. It would also explain the otherwise hard-to-understand indifference of the brothers to investigation, and would explain why Bobby apparently helped destroy critical evidence.

[Al Gator]

Well, I'm glad you are 100 per cent sure. I'm not, and neither are most of the people who where around back then.

My thing is, there are too many loose ends.

100 years from now, the problem will be solved.

And we will all be able to go: NYA NYA from our graves, so there!

[SoCal Pubbie]

"Folks who were there said it was a shooting gallery--war zone."

Folks who were there, at the time, said the shots sounded like they came from the direction of the Texas School Book Depository. Those "African American boys" said they heard the ejected shells hitting the floor on the sixth floor sniper's nest right above them.

[Eastbound]

"LBJ was definitely capable of all the things he was accused of doing."

He might have had covert knowledge, BUT it could have been only on a 'need to know' basis, not knowing the when, where or how. As president, his un-involvement had to be assured. IMO.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Too bad Lifton ignored Connally's wounds in his book of fiction.