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It's Time for Justice: Drop the charges vs. Duke lacrosse players
The Mercury News ^ | October 16, 2006 | Jason Whitlock

Posted on 10/18/2006 2:45:47 PM PDT by zaxxon

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To: xoxoxox

Thanks for that.

So Nifong could win if it's
34% Nifong
33% Cheek
33% Monks

or more likely
49% Nifong
48% Cheek
3% Monks

Monks really needs to drop out. What a jerk.


521 posted on 10/24/2006 8:02:02 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: abb

Here's his home page.

http://fds.duke.edu/db/aas/Chemistry/faculty/steven.baldwin

Compare his research interests with the mush on the "Group of 88's" home pages.


522 posted on 10/24/2006 8:04:04 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: abb

http://www.wral.com/news/10054511/detail.html?qs=;s=1;w=800

I missed this document. Posting it just in case someone else missed it also.


523 posted on 10/24/2006 8:08:28 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Locomotive Breath

Thanks for posting.
I am not an organic chemist, but it sounds like Baldwin is investigating some basic science around the creation of pharmaceuticals. Even if this were not the case, I suspect Prof. Baldwin will add more to benefit the human race than all 88 of the remaining professors combined.


524 posted on 10/24/2006 8:10:29 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I saw this, but I have not seen anything that follows from this. The letter suggests that something more specific will follow based on the full transcript.


525 posted on 10/24/2006 8:17:54 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: Locomotive Breath
entrapped in a chat room by a cop posing as someone else. When someone questioned the tactic, they actually said (approximately) "the cops can do that, they tried it in the Duke rape case."

You wonder why all the police notes and emails haven't been turned more... More exculpatory evidence I's guess.

526 posted on 10/24/2006 8:24:13 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: bjc
Groupthink and the Intellectual Elite

Talks about how academic disciplines eventually become a monoculture. Even physics.
527 posted on 10/24/2006 8:33:12 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: ltc8k6

I am not sure about Michaels pretending to follow the case, but under American law you have the right to know what you are accused of. So in fact Michaels and Joyner are spinning claiming that Nifong can be hiding something that is relevant still.

Nifong will not be allowed to say "maybe a foreign object like a broom" unless he has some affirmative evidence that something like tha took place. That evidence is discoverable.

The defense is allowed to throw almost anything up against the wall and see if it sticks although there are some limits on defenses that I think are outrageous. The prosecution is most certainly NOT allowed to bring a case and make up wild theories about why they don't have DNA evidence or cross contamination that would would expect with what they are alledging.

Finally Michaels adopting the Nifong spin that something is wrong with aggressively defending ones self is another failure to understand the American criminal system. The attorneys are aggressively defending their clients because THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE PAID TO DO.


528 posted on 10/24/2006 8:41:21 AM PDT by JLS
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To: abb

These change of venue articles are outrageously ignorant. This is a textbook case for a change in venue. The defendants might be convicted based on bias against them, bias against Duke University or pre-trial publicity. I can not imagine a better case for a change in venue.


529 posted on 10/24/2006 8:49:22 AM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

All you have to do is look at Gottlieb's made-up four-months-after-the-fact 33-page "notes" to understand what Joyner is telling us about how Nifong is intending to operate. Expect more fabrications. So far, it doesn't look like any judge is willing to rein him in either.


530 posted on 10/24/2006 8:55:16 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: gopheraj

mark


531 posted on 10/24/2006 9:27:54 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

A records search of the N&O archives shows only ONE mention of the Platinum.

June 9, 2006 News & Observer, Filing disputes lacrosse probe, Joseph Neff, Anne Blythe Staff Writers Lead

When Durham police and prosecutors asked a judge for permission to collect photos and DNA from 46 Duke University lacrosse players, they said a woman had reported being beaten, choked and gang-raped at a team party. But defense lawyers said in a court filing Thursday that police ....

Two days before the party, Johnson said he drove the woman to an hourlong appointment at the Holiday Inn Express in Wakefield. At 11 p.m., Johnson said, he drove her to Platinum, a strip club in Hillsborough. The woman twice asked him to stay another hour, he wrote. At 4:30 a.m., Johnson said, he drove her to an hourlong job at the Millennium Hotel near Duke University.

* Why don't these reporters get off their duffs and do some REAL investigative journalism?


532 posted on 10/24/2006 9:48:59 AM PDT by xoxoxox
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To: Fido969
You wonder why all the police notes and emails haven't been turned more... More exculpatory evidence I's guess.

You can't turn over what has been destroyed or as the DPD would say never existed......

533 posted on 10/24/2006 10:07:32 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: abb

That was a good article. I'm glad someone at the school had the courage to speak up. Hope the rest don't take it out on him for breaking with the line as my son's grade-level principal had to leave for sticking up for my son. It was sad. He would have made a great administrator and was truly fond of the kids. Thanks for the ping.


534 posted on 10/24/2006 10:40:07 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: abb

"He earned one of the highest grades in a large, difficult and very competitive class."

Big deal. Crystal recently got an "A" in a really hard class too.


535 posted on 10/24/2006 10:46:57 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: All

Except and when it's an election for District Attorney...

Voting activist urges student participation
http://www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2006/10/24/News/Voting.Activist.Urges.Student.Participation-2384787.shtml?norewrite200610241532&sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com


536 posted on 10/24/2006 12:43:07 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Locomotive Breath


*snort*


537 posted on 10/24/2006 1:21:12 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: abb
Thanks abb. Excellent article! A true professor!

Contrast Baldwin's comments with Cash's. Imagine a vaginal, oral, anal rape without physical evidence. How on God's green earth can a DA spin a case out of that?? The gang of 88 has some 'Splainin to do

538 posted on 10/24/2006 1:47:47 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Republicans resign; Democrats run for reelection)
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To: Locomotive Breath
Anyone else watch the TV program "Justice"LB--I caught the show! I couldn't believe the show basically accused the PD of tricking the kid "just like the Duke Rape Case"!
539 posted on 10/24/2006 1:54:46 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Republicans resign; Democrats run for reelection)
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To: Neverforget01

There must be some connection there. That was a pretty obscure part of this entire saga.


540 posted on 10/24/2006 2:22:17 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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