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Lacrosse players' defense: Documents being withheld
HeraldSun ^ | September 1, 2006 | William F. West

Posted on 09/01/2006 10:19:41 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights

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To: CondorFlight

Kim strikes again.


421 posted on 09/06/2006 6:37:10 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; maggief; All

I heard Neil Bortz on the radio tonight - he was speaking of Unions and retirements - and that he made a general statement.
He said that people or groups do not give up Power for no reason - he said they don't Power voluntarily and he said that's Human Nature.

I was reminded of Nifong giving up his scheduling power - "Docket Management" ability - and the Durham Justice Powers relinquishing power to a Judge from the Outside - for the first time in history.

All things that have gotten absolutely zero Coverage from Big Media.

Going to an outside Judge and having Nifong step away from one of his weapons is the most telling harbinger in this case.


422 posted on 09/06/2006 6:41:07 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: SarahUSC

So very true, and if the trial is held in Durham, and the jury is comprised of ordinary Durhamites, it's foregone conclusion that they will be too dimwitted and dull to decide the facts of the case objectively within the context of the law.


423 posted on 09/06/2006 6:43:45 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: SarahUSC

Nifong is also stuck with Crystal getting into Kim's car and saying they should go back because there's more money to be made. They danced until 12:05 and went into the bathroom, so that had to be at least 12:15 at the earliest, and Reade was on his way by then.

With Kim's original statement, there's no way Nifong fits a rape into the timeline.


424 posted on 09/06/2006 6:47:18 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: InsanityReigns

Cash Michael is still a pot-stirrer. He's doing his best to keep the suspicion and animosity alive in a seemingly rational way.


425 posted on 09/06/2006 6:50:09 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: SarahUSC

They should interview everyone who was there that night. In fact, they should have done it long before now and locked down their stories.


426 posted on 09/06/2006 6:51:20 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: SarahUSC

IIRC, Colin left before the dancing started, didn't he? Or am I remembering it wrong? I though he was gone by the time Kim arrived.


427 posted on 09/06/2006 6:53:08 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: CondorFlight; Protect the Bill of Rights; maggief; SarahUSC; All

The Durham Police Dept has brought all this speculation upon themselves.

Questioning players without legal counsel.
Asking basic questions of players AFTER indictments
What looks to be false affidavits filed for probable cause
Omitting critical evidence in the presentation to Judge
Line up procedures
Ignoring certain parts of AV's story - like Kim stole her $$
Stating publicly that Crystal had never changed her story
4 months to turn over notes
Magically appearing hyper-detailed notes
Investigator notes that vary wildly on the same subjects
Blinco's
Handling of investigation of Blinco's incident
Cab driver treatment
History of corruption
Past preferential treatment of Gottlieb in police investigations
Addendums to witness statements that benefit the prosecution's case
Delay in interviewing Bissey
Delay in interviewing Cab Driver
Delay in interviewing Jarriel Johnson
DPD's support and endorsement of Nifong
Delay in Drug Testing
Cameras waiting for the players as the show up to provide DNA samples and get photographed.
Patrick Baker's suspicious actions and lies to the press.

In most cases, I avoid speculation that entails cover-ups or institutional corruption, but the partial list above has made that impossible in this case - for me, anyway.

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428 posted on 09/06/2006 7:00:17 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong

I don't disbelieve there is a conspiracy and, therefore, corruption involved in the case. I just don't think it originated with the two bimboes ("bimbos"? "bimbi"? "bimbae"? :>).


429 posted on 09/06/2006 7:09:36 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Mike Nifong

"The Durham Police Dept has brought all this speculation upon themselves."

Let's not forget holding the photo ID session for Kim on May 11--AFTER the indictments (and the guys' photos were all in the media)

Not turning over to the defense HUNDREDS Of pages from the SBI DNA testing (still not handed over)

Not turning over to the defense hordes of notes taken about the case

Not turning over to the defense the cache of internal police emails about the case

Not turning over to the defense the tox report (still not handed over as of Aug. 31)

arresting at least five witnesses in the case and getting convictions against Evans (noise violation!) and Finnerty (with a little DC cooperation); and trying to get a conviction against Elmo

etc.





430 posted on 09/06/2006 7:14:47 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight; GAgal

I read the motion in part while dealing with my day. I have a few thoughts about it:

1. I guess Judge Titus has been shown he can take his semi-gag order" and shove it.

2. One reason that Nifong needs to drop this case is the discovery keeps showing him to be a liar. In the motion, the defense attorneys point out that police notes contradict Nifong's assertion that his meeting with Mangum was not a discussion of the case.


431 posted on 09/06/2006 7:27:29 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Mike Nifong

Is there any local talk about Nifong's mood these days?


432 posted on 09/06/2006 7:29:19 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (quent)
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To: Mike Nifong

You are right. It is very telling.

I do not believe this case will ever go to trial.


433 posted on 09/06/2006 7:40:34 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Jezebelle

Let's see... my student doesn't drivee a new BMW SUV but rather an old Pontiac; we did stop by the thrift store to buy some furniture for the dorm room (didn't have old stuff to discard, though); as for the 5 bucks - student worked this summer and may have more than that.... but it's not sitting in a desk drawer in cash (and student has loans to pay).... and it's nowhere near 5 grand. (BTW - still don't believe that story. Chick's hiding something.)

I so wish the blacks of Durham knew the history of the Duke family. They were not racsist. Through the endowment, they provided for black universities, hospitals and orphanages. The endowment continues to provide. It blows the mind how these folks bite the hand that feeds and has fed them.

During "move-in", I took note of the business in Durham's stores, motels and restaurants. I especially took note of the items that were not available when I went to purchase them!!! LOL Some shelves were bare - out of stock, should I say. Okay, so perhaps one can say that it's the white business owner's that are benefitting. In some cases, sure. But in other cases, not necessarily so. But you know what? Regardless, there are most certainly some Durhamites who would be without employment if those businesses did not exist.


434 posted on 09/06/2006 7:42:16 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Dukie07

Not sure it's a good idea to delve into the history of the Duke family. At least not all of it.

IIRC Doris had a 'relationship' with her butler or driver and 'accidently' drove over him after a misunderstanding. I think he was pinned between her Rolls and the gates of the estate.

The Newport, RI police declined to arrest her after she promised to donate millions to the pre-Revolutionary village in the old part of Newport.

BTW her 'driver' happened to be black.


435 posted on 09/06/2006 7:48:43 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Dukie07
For all present and former students at Duke, I offer the following advice:

Dick Broadhead - before he Dicks you.

436 posted on 09/06/2006 7:50:43 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
Dick Broadhead

OK, so I misspelled Brodhead. I got the first name right.

437 posted on 09/06/2006 7:58:14 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

LOL - now that was clever!


438 posted on 09/06/2006 8:02:05 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: ladyjane

I suspect she might have done the same thing if he had been purple. Doris had some issues.


439 posted on 09/06/2006 8:03:10 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Mike Nifong


Add: Not turning over e-mails, not turning over drug testing reports and other new revelations.


440 posted on 09/06/2006 8:13:53 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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