Backup Doping Test Begins in Landis Case

AP ^ | Aug 03 10:16 AM | JENNY BARCHFIELD

[Zack Nguyen]

Professional atheltics, particularly sports like track and field, have gotten to a point where drugs are simply a prerequisite for success at the world class level. That at least is what I have read. Maybe cycling has reached this point now too. It's a shame really.

[Zack Nguyen]

I respect the Tour for actually busting the winner. That would never happen in a lot of cases. I've read about positive tests in track that were carefully covered up. (Although the co-world record holder in the 100 meters was busted the other day.)

[Steve_Seattle]

"In opposition to all the rubbish I can read sometimes here about a supposed plot against Floyd Landis because he's American, I can tell you that nobody has anything to win in this affair."

Well, Armstrong had fans spitting in his face during the Tour, and a lot of Euros resented his wins, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone would be tempted to taint Landis's urine samples. The European press is full of rubbish about America, about Bush, etc., so I really wouldn't put it past them.

Meanwhile, everyone has almost forgotten that the two pre-race favorites - Basso and Ullrich - both have been implicated in the Spanish scandal, and the evidence against them also seems rather compelling. So maybe, as some say, everyone does it.

[Vision]

if you cant master the "medical" side of things like lance did you dont deserve the success he had either

Armstrong never used dope. You have no way to back that up.

[Canard]

"Professional atheltics, particularly sports like track and field, have gotten to a point where drugs are simply a prerequisite for success at the world class level. That at least is what I have read. Maybe cycling has reached this point now too"

I think cycling has been one of the leaders in this field, rather than following along. Mid to late 90's it seems, given what we have learned since that all of the top guys were using some kind of subatances. Hopefully, the last few years have seen the start of a clean-up, but there's obviously still a way to go.

[Steve_Seattle]

"Athletes do not get the same education that "normal" people get."

In one of the cycling machines, Landis's buddy David Zabriskie takes a shot at Bush, calling him basically stupid. Since the Landis scandal broke, I've been tempted to send Zabriskie a note saying that maybe he doesn't consort with geniuses, either. One reason I resisted thinking that Landis could be guilty is that I didn't think anyone could be that stupid.

[Vision]

In opposition to all the rubbish I can read sometimes here about a supposed plot against Floyd Landis because he's American, I can tell you that nobody has anything to win in this affair.

I agree but listen to Armstrong talk about the anti-Americanism. The French press and whomever seriously tried to slander him with no evidence.

[Steve_Seattle]

" . . . the last few years have seen the start of a clean-up, but there's obviously still a way to go."

Quite a ways to go . . . Basso . . . Ullrich . . . Mancebo . . . Landis . . . Hamilton . . . et al. Kind of reads like the leaderboard . . .

[Steve_Seattle]

cycling machines . . . uh, that is, cycling MAGAZINES

[razorback-bert]

Landis just didn't fall off the biking turnip truck yesterday

It was a horse drawn buggy a few years ago.

[stinkerpot65]

The French probably spiked the sample. Corruption is a part of their culture.

[Republicain]

Well, Armstrong had fans spitting in his face during the Tour, and a lot of Euros resented his wins, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone would be tempted to taint Landis's urine samples. The European press is full of rubbish about America, about Bush, etc., so I really wouldn't put it past them.

If fans spitted in Armstrong's face, that's not because Armstrong is American, it's just because these fans (which are not all french) are simply morons (to stay polite). And I can tell you that the unpopularity of Armstrong in France (and Europe) is not linked to his nationality but to the fact that Armstrong is absolutely antipathetic, what was not Greg LeMond (despite he beat Bernard Hinault and Laurent Fignon) and what is not Landis.

[Republicain]

he French probably spiked the sample. Corruption is a part of their culture.

Yes, as crime, vulgarity and ignorance are part of American culture.

[derllak]

Elevated levels of testosterone can cause prostate cancer. Coincidence? Hmmmm.........

[Republicain]

I agree but listen to Armstrong talk about the anti-Americanism. The French press and whomever seriously tried to slander him with no evidence.

What Armstrong calls anti-Americanism is in fact "anti-Armstrongism". I repeat, the problem with Armstrong in France is not his nationality, it's Armstrong himself.

[Republicain]

Thanks for your support. I try to post the articles I found interesting, especially about the "Old Europe". Maybe by that way, Freepers will get a better idea of Europe and understand that it's not necessary to nuke us one of theses days... :-)

[Eurotwit]

It is in fact proven that elevated testeronene leves increases risk taking dramatically.

[Eurotwit]

I think Lance should be kept out of it. He has NOT tested positive.

Anyhow, a lot of people will think what they will anyways.

[Eurotwit]

There has been (and are some great French posters here), and I am impressed by the ammount of venom you guys have to tolerate.

Then again, whenever Norway it mentioned it is talk about Quisling and stuff like that. Those are "fighting words" if they were said to my face.

yet, on a message board like this, who cares?

I just wanted to voice my support.

All good people. In the US and in Europe needs to unite, because we are fighting a global enemy united against us.

Cheers.

[Humbug]

I've wondered that too. Why take something if you know you're going to be tested? Or is it that they are tested at random times throughout the Tour and so Landis (if he is guilty) figured it was worth risking it since he was in a desperate situation at that point in the race? Another possibility is that he thought he would able to beat the system - that he had some way of masking the banned substance but for some reason the mask failed to provide cover for him.