What Does the Fossil Record Show?

Creation or Evolution: Does it Really Matter What You Believe? ^ | 1998 | Various

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"So no, I am not a postmodernist,"

Sure you are. You want mamby-pamby definitions that take have vague meanings because it suits your lack of an argument.

"UH UH, CAN'T LET YOU GET AWAY WITH THIS. I did not IGNORE the definitions,..."

Sure you did. That's not even debatable.

"My purpose is not to "win""

I should hope not.

"In any scientific endeavor there must be repeated experimentation."

No there isn't.

"And by default NS+RM is science ? How is that a scientific claim ?"

Because it can be tested, and has been. Though it isn't used to explain the origins of life.

"In everyday life, we ASSUME that when we see order and complexity, that intelligence is behind it, how is that a theological claim ?"

Maybe YOU do, but it isn't the only logical conclusion.

"Well, I'd be glad for you to show me the results of tests that shows random mutation, chance actually produced a bacterial flagellum, just as one example."

Nice sidestep. Just because EVERYTHING about the history of life has not been explained, does not mean that nothing has been or can be tested. ID on the other hand is not testable.

"I believe William Dembski responded to this claim."

Dumbski is wrong. It's untestable. The *Designer* can do anything and everything; it has no constraints.

"Disagree. The TAX-PAYING DOVER community decides what they want in their curriculum as in any other community. THEY PAY THEIR TAXES, THEY MAKE THEIR DECISION."

As long as their decision doesn't violate the constitution. BTW, the tax-paying Dover community voted every one of the ID'ers out.

"Federal JUDGES are NOT QUALIFIED to make decisions on this. "

The ID'ers shouldn't have shopped around for a test case then. They wanted a trial.

[DouglasKC]

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