This one??
Or is that un pallet-able too?
Posted on 06/01/2006 7:20:27 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
You and T'wit have been here long before the mods. Can't you handle this between yourselves?
I think you misunderstand.
Do you buy your strawmen by the pallet?
Thank you for your response.
This one??
Or is that un pallet-able too?
You referenced the quote without a link to where you got it. I searched the web and found an LKL-Shiavo interview that did not contain your quote.
Blame yourself for your laziness, not me.
In that interview, Michael misspoke when he said "we" insted of "they". People do that. Like when they say "Felos contributed the maximum" or that it was Dr. Cranford saying "Good job".
Right?
Michael misspoke in his second LKL interview and he never said it was "his own wish" with Keith Olbermann. Please cite the "testimony" to which you're referring.
Or retract it.
You can tell when Michael misspoke? Only Michael can do that. Are you..... ?!?
Bull. I gave you a reference right away, with the plain statement that the quote was from a different interview. You went right on saying that I was lying, with factual reason in front of you to know your comment was false. That is despicable.
Again, are you a mindreader? You can't know this.
Sure. Even Larry King knew he misspoke.
When someone repeatedly says it was Terri's wish, time after time, interview after interview, and then one time says "we" didn't know when referencing her parents, that's your clue.
But you think that one time was the truth, and all the other times were errors? And the sworn testimony of others who said it was Terri's wish -- those were mistakes also?
What he said was what I quoted. He said that he himself reached the conclusion about what Terri wanted. Here again is Michael's quote and my comment.
>> [MS] (Interview with Keith Olbermann) "I fought many, many, many years to help Terri. And finally came to the conclusion this is not what Terri wanted and started my proceedings with that."
> "This is straightforward too. Michael says it was he who came to the conclusion about what Terri wanted, not she. Note that the decision was AFTER Terri's injury, so it was not possible for her to have a say in it. Note further that WHAT Michael decided was to start HIS legal "proceedings," i.e., to kill her."
You replied,
>> Correct.
Yes, it was.
>> You'll note that he didn't say, "This is what Terri wants".
That would have been a grammatical mistake. "Wants" is the present tense of the verb. He was not talking about the present. He was talking about c. 1993. Therefore, the past tense of the verb, "wanted," is required. And that's what he used.
You go on, "Then you'd have a legitimate point -- how could Michael know what she wants? But he didn't. He said this is what Terri wanted -- referring to what she had told him and others previously."
Yes, thank you, it is certainly a legitimate point. It is your analysis based on misusing verb tenses that is wrong. To refer to what Terri HAD WANTED before her injury, the verb one uses is HAD WANTED.
But you twice cited the quote prior to that post with no reference to the inteview date and no link. I didn't know there were two interviews.
He protesteth too much.
If this was indeed Michaels' wish, then why did Keith Olbermann say in the same interview, "Was there this sense of releasing someone, was there the sense of fulfilling the wish that you have always said she had for those circumstances?"
I asked you that question in post #278 and you never responded. And here we are going over it again. Answer the question.
I'd say not enough. You still don't hear it.
IOW, you called me a liar and lazy without reading my post.
>> But...
Mm hmm. We could all here that coming.
>> I didn't know there were two interviews.
You should have investigated before calling me a liar. You went right on doing so after all the information was in front of you and after the link had been posted at least THREE times, once with highlighting.
And how would you know that? King did not say so. Here is what he did say.
"KING: You're not -- it didn't cost you anything. This is not something where you're looking to save money?"
here = hear. Time for a cup of coffee.
I've heard him say it as many times as you have. A lie repeated one million times is a lie. We look to other evidence to determine veracity.
We also know that the law about removing feeding tubes was not changed until long after Terri's injuries. She could not possibly have made an informed choice to put herself to death by removal of hydration. It is Michael Schiavo's name on the death order.
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