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American Idol 2006--Live Thread (Part III)
Fox ^ | 5-8-06

Posted on 05/08/2006 4:22:13 AM PDT by silent_jonny

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To: stlnative

"ewwww that was an eye opener on House!"

A "Bloody" eye opener as Cowell would say!


7,461 posted on 05/23/2006 6:22:10 PM PDT by TonyWpi ("Victory is mine" - Stewie Griffin)
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To: silent_jonny

Oh and now he's thrilled he changed it. If he were to leave me for anyone it would be Gretchen Wilson.


7,462 posted on 05/23/2006 6:22:20 PM PDT by retrokitten (Yabba dabba soul patrol!!)
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To: OldFriend

"Under the Radar"....who's CD is that?


7,463 posted on 05/23/2006 6:22:56 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Wolfstar
Gretchen Wilson performing on the awards show now--I like this song she's singing. Don't know the name of it.

Merle Haggard appears behind her on the giant screen, singing with her. That was odd.

7,464 posted on 05/23/2006 6:23:33 PM PDT by silent_jonny ("the good and honest souls here will prevail" -- MOgirl)
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To: retrokitten

How do you do a text vote for Taylor? (Should have paid more attention when it was on the screen lol)


7,465 posted on 05/23/2006 6:23:54 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: silent_jonny

Politically Uncorrect


7,466 posted on 05/23/2006 6:24:20 PM PDT by retrokitten (Yabba dabba soul patrol!!)
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To: silent_jonny
Here you go, Jonny. This is the URL, not linking due to haste: http://news.aol.com/entertainment/tv/articles/_a/which-idol-will-sell-more-records/20060523072009990001

It's a long article. Here's the relevant paragraphs:

Not surprisingly, the music experts offered tougher assessments.

"Taylor is not the quintessential American Idol, but he has a uniqueness that makes him stand out," says Nancy Rainford, former agent and manager and author of How to Agent Your Agent. "He's an odd choice. He'll never be a Mick Jagger, but he could have longevity along the lines of Joe Cocker if he makes the right choices and gets the right producers. If someone tries to make him go Hollywood, the audience is going to hate him. He needs to keep it real and down-home and funky. He can be a little goofy, but that will subside."

Rainford envisions Katharine in touring productions of Beauty and the Beast or Peter Pan.

"If they were still stunt-casting Grease on Broadway, she'd be perfect. She's pure musical theater," she says. "I don't think she has any grasp on what her talent is. She keeps singing these bluesy, sexy songs, and they don't ring true. She wants to be Mariah Carey, and she's never going to be."

Although Katharine doesn't have the pipes, she has the packaging, music consultant Tom Vickers says.

"She's absolutely stunning, and that's the most obvious marketing aspect in moving her forward," he says. "When you have a woman graced with that much natural beauty, you obviously take advantage of it in promoting her. She needs to find songs that she doesn't merely sing but also feels. She's got a lovely voice, but there's an emotional disconnect. I'd look for material that resonates with her, and use that face to sell it."

Taylor may be a harder sell, Vickers says. "He's not a matinee idol, and he's overweight. For someone constantly waving his fist and yelling 'Soul patrol,' he can't dance to save his life. But his fans love his quirky charm. Marketing him is a tightrope walk. I'd be careful not to straitjacket him as a retro-soul artist. He can't follow Michael McDonald and do a Motown tribute. He needs to establish himself first rather than risk pigeonholing himself with a covers album."

Vickers gives Taylor a better shot at lasting fame than Kat, though his challenge lies in building an audience without a hit single as a catalyst. "If he makes a cohesive album with a compelling vibe, it could be the one people have to have."

Music consultant Dennis O'Donnell likens Taylor to a modern-day Kenny Rogers. "Taylor could be a pop-country guy, and that's not a bad thing," he says. "It's right down the middle. If he gets a hit, it will stay around awhile. Though he's awkward and sort of oafish, he has charm and he doesn't have the air of an actor. What I'm reading is that he knows he's got the tiger by the tail. All he needs is good songs. People already like him."

Katharine, on the other hand, doesn't exhibit the drive to win, "but seems to think she deserves it," says O'Donnell, predicting a failed music career and possible future in commercials. "She's cold and artificial. When she sings, she's looking for the camera and seems to be assuming a character. She attempts the vocal gymnastics of Celine Dion . When people hear Celine, they know it's real. Katharine seems manufactured. I think she'll fade."

In Katharine, what appears to be a blank slate may be simply a lack of self-awareness, maturity and seasoning, says Phil Gallo, associate editor at Daily Variety.

"I'm sure she'll be a vastly different person in three or four years," he says. "I still don't have a handle on who she is after all these weeks. She's not as strong a personality as Kelly" (Clarkson) — the first Idol winner in 2002 — "or Carrie. I don't know what she wants to do. She is blessed with a nice voice, but she needs media and stage training. She's not a natural performer."


7,467 posted on 05/23/2006 6:24:52 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: OldFriend
"Taylor touched my heart again."

He really knows how to feel the song...

Katharine sings good but she doesn't put the emotion into the song. She just smiles and looks gorgeous no matter what she sings.

I'll buy her posters, but I'll buy Taylors CD's.
7,468 posted on 05/23/2006 6:24:54 PM PDT by TonyWpi ("Victory is mine" - Stewie Griffin)
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To: Wolfstar

"Politically Uncorrect" is the name of Gretchen's song--really liked it! "I'm for the Bible and I'm for the flag"


7,469 posted on 05/23/2006 6:25:11 PM PDT by silent_jonny ("the good and honest souls here will prevail" -- MOgirl)
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To: silent_jonny
The night belongs to the Soul Patrol! There is absolutely no logical reason why he shouldn't win this. None.

Crossing fingers.

7,470 posted on 05/23/2006 6:25:31 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: OldFriend

I heard a talk radio host say that Taylor looks like George Clooney...and I about called in and told him off....LOL


7,471 posted on 05/23/2006 6:25:34 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Dutchgirl

LOL!


7,472 posted on 05/23/2006 6:26:00 PM PDT by silent_jonny ("the good and honest souls here will prevail" -- MOgirl)
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To: KJC1

You have to be a Cingular customer. Then text "Vote" to 5702.


7,473 posted on 05/23/2006 6:26:07 PM PDT by retrokitten (Yabba dabba soul patrol!!)
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To: Wolfstar

Vickers was on the Glenn Beck TV show today. He pretty much said the same thing.


7,474 posted on 05/23/2006 6:26:09 PM PDT by TonyWpi ("Victory is mine" - Stewie Griffin)
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To: silent_jonny
Gretchen Wilson performing on the awards show now--I like this song she's singing. Don't know the name of it. Merle Haggard appears behind her on the giant screen, singing with her. That was odd.

Sounds strange.

7,475 posted on 05/23/2006 6:26:21 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: BamaDi

I'm drinking Merlot right now too!


7,476 posted on 05/23/2006 6:26:37 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: silent_jonny
"Politically Uncorrect" is the name of Gretchen's song--really liked it! "I'm for the Bible and I'm for the flag"

I really like Gretchen and love her voice.

7,477 posted on 05/23/2006 6:27:28 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Txsleuth

AOL was comparing him to Clinton. Bastards.


7,478 posted on 05/23/2006 6:27:33 PM PDT by retrokitten (Yabba dabba soul patrol!!)
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To: Txsleuth

Taylor Hicks CD.....


7,479 posted on 05/23/2006 6:28:35 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: retrokitten

I absolutely LOVE Gretchen Wilson.


7,480 posted on 05/23/2006 6:28:42 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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