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American Idol 2006--Live Thread (Part III)
Fox ^ | 5-8-06

Posted on 05/08/2006 4:22:13 AM PDT by silent_jonny

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To: Shelayne

I told my husband that is Katharine doesn't win, I will name one of our kitten's Kat to make him feel better.


4,741 posted on 05/17/2006 12:56:45 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Shelayne

Does Chris's voice give ya the tingles? It does to me!


4,742 posted on 05/17/2006 12:58:33 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

Yes it did. And his almost aching cry out in "Air I Breathe" almost made me cry. I am seriously tooooo emotional when it comes to those kinds of songs! Ha!


4,743 posted on 05/17/2006 1:05:10 PM PDT by Shelayne (Antique Media--losing value everyday...)
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To: Netizen
I noticed that a lot of them had that half squat, take a dump look.

Yep. It's not attractive in any way and it also shuts down their vocal chords to some extent by putting pounds of downward pressure on the larynx. A superbly trained singer wouldn't do it. Paris didn't. (I remember Andrea Boccelli saing that Paris had a terrific "instrument.")

Of course, some very popular singers have hideous posture and tinny voices and make tons of money anyway. But not because of their vocal quality. There's a lot more in the popularity mix. AI is clearly not just about singing ability.

4,744 posted on 05/17/2006 1:08:43 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Wolfstar
The wild card is Chris' fans -- who they vote for or against, and in what numbers.

Based on the numbers shown by zabrasearch, at least 1/2 of them are not voting. I know the 4 Chris fans in my house didn't make a single vote last night. If we would have voted, two of us would have voted for Taylor and the other 2 would have voted for Kat.
4,745 posted on 05/17/2006 1:18:18 PM PDT by Texas2step (<><)
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To: Texas2step
Flea'd this from the AI forums:

From zabbaserach data:

Last week taylor had 12.5M votes total. This week he had 18Million. Thats a big jump. others are like this:

Katharine had 12.4M last week and 14M this week.

Elliott had 12M last week and 12.4 m this week.

Chris had 12.3 million last week.

Total votes this week went down from 49M to 44M. I guess those are a few of the chris voters dropping off.


4,746 posted on 05/17/2006 1:23:40 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Flea'd this from the AI forums:

From zabbaserach data:

Last week taylor had 12.5M votes total. This week he had 18Million. Thats a big jump. others are like this:

Katharine had 12.4M last week and 14M this week.

Elliott had 12M last week and 12.4 m this week.

Chris had 12.3 million last week.

Total votes this week went down from 49M to 44M. I guess those are a few of the chris voters dropping off.

If this is true, why didn't Elliott go home last week?

4,747 posted on 05/17/2006 1:30:36 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: sirchtruth

You have FReepmail.


4,748 posted on 05/17/2006 1:30:55 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Veto!
There's a lot more in the popularity mix. AI is clearly not just about singing ability.

Very true. I read that Nigel said there was a record breaking over 50 million votes cast last night.

4,749 posted on 05/17/2006 1:32:49 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: So Cal Rocket; Wyatt's Torch

Nigel Lythgoe reported 50M votes last night-- a record for a non-final.


4,750 posted on 05/17/2006 1:33:43 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Texas2step
Based on the numbers shown by zabrasearch, at least 1/2 of them are not voting.

How can you tell? The numbers are higher than last week.

4,751 posted on 05/17/2006 1:33:53 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Total votes this week went down from 49M to 44M. I guess those are a few of the chris voters dropping off.

I think that is incorrect. Look at the chart.

4,752 posted on 05/17/2006 1:37:06 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Flea'd this from the AI forums:

From zabbaserach data:

Last week taylor had 12.5M votes total. This week he had 18Million. Thats a big jump. others are like this:

Katharine had 12.4M last week and 14M this week.

Elliott had 12M last week and 12.4 m this week.

Chris had 12.3 million last week.

Total votes this week went down from 49M to 44M. I guess those are a few of the chris voters dropping off.

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I think the above is bad data.

Here is the chart from the week before.


4,753 posted on 05/17/2006 1:43:59 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Netizen
How can you tell? The numbers are higher than last week.

The Zabrasearch chart showed over 48 million voters last week and 44 million voters this week. Given the fact that they have shown more votes cast almost every week, that meant a lot of Chris fans didn't vote.

Anecdotely, I know that there are 4-5 Chris fans on this threa that are no longer voting, including the 4 voters in my house.

Even if total voters went up (and I'm not convinced they did), that doesn't mean a large portion of Chris' fans didn't vote. It just means that there are more people voting, and probably different people.

I've seen several posters on this thread that said that last night was the first time they've voted.

JMO, your mileage may vary.
4,754 posted on 05/17/2006 1:47:47 PM PDT by Texas2step (<><)
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To: Netizen
I think that is incorrect. Look at the chart.

That chart shows 44 million voters. Last weeks chart (which you also posted) shows 48-49 million voters. By my math, it's less this week with Chris gone, even though they supposedly have more voters every week. ;-)
4,755 posted on 05/17/2006 1:49:45 PM PDT by Texas2step (<><)
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To: Texas2step
That chart shows 44 million voters.

The chart shows 44 million before you add in the overflow for Kat and Elliot. :)

Or don't you see the blue bar going beyond their respective lines? ;)

4,756 posted on 05/17/2006 1:53:18 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Total votes this week went down from 49M to 44M. I guess those are a few of the chris voters dropping off.

Problem is the weekly after Tuesday interview with Nigel Lythgoe with TV WEEK tells us that the total votes last night reached about 50 Million. The greatest number of pre-final night idol votes in the show's history.

Listen to the MP3 of the interview here : www.tvweek.com/docs/docs/idol_5_17.mp3
4,757 posted on 05/17/2006 1:54:10 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot
Problem is the weekly after Tuesday interview with Nigel Lythgoe with TV WEEK tells us that the total votes last night reached about 50 Million. The greatest number of pre-final night idol votes in the show's history.

Isn't that something. The show didn't fall apart and fall into disaray this week.

4,758 posted on 05/17/2006 1:59:15 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: SirLinksalot

What are your thoughts on the interview with Nigel?

I found this comment interesting, "The person going home just didn't stick thier chest out like a sprinter at the end of the race."


4,759 posted on 05/17/2006 2:03:10 PM PDT by retrokitten (favorite Banana Split was Fleagle)
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To: Texas2step
Based on the numbers shown by zabrasearch, at least 1/2 of them are not voting. I know the 4 Chris fans in my house didn't make a single vote last night. If we would have voted, two of us would have voted for Taylor and the other 2 would have voted for Kat.

Thanks. You've given me a glimpse into what probably happened with most Chris fans.

4,760 posted on 05/17/2006 2:11:43 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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