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American Idol 2006--Live Thread (Part III)
Fox ^ | 5-8-06

Posted on 05/08/2006 4:22:13 AM PDT by silent_jonny

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To: silent_jonny
No, she's not. Wolfstar is one of the most thoughtful and intelligent posters on FR and a welcome contributor on this thread.

Thanks Jonny. :)

LOL! I have to laugh at people who simply cannot (or will not) discuss their opinions without resorting to insults. FR is totally infected with this "disease" these days. Perhaps all of society is, but it's such a weak, sissy position from which to make one's case. Much stronger to say what ya gotta say, and let others draw their own conclusions instead of trying to force them to see it your way.

2,381 posted on 05/11/2006 9:13:37 AM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: RobFromGa

Part of Chris's issue is that in the entire alt-rock genre (of which I am a big fan) there is not a single solo artist that I can think of. EVERYTHING is a band. Now he's freed up to pursue just that.


2,382 posted on 05/11/2006 9:13:55 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: misterrob
It was bad. Chris deserved to be handled better.

Agreed, but in fairness to Ryan, time was short and he was rushing a little overall. Plus he did warm up to Chris after asking him if he was surprised, put his arm around him, shook his head a few times and basically let the world know this was a strange decision.

So yeah, 'Crest shoulda broke the news a little slower and more tactfully, but in the end I don't think it was malicious. And no matter how it went down, people would be screaming bloody murder about the shocking result.
2,383 posted on 05/11/2006 9:14:30 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: MarMema
Ain't he something?

MarMema, Elliott is a pure joy to watch and listen to these days.

2,384 posted on 05/11/2006 9:14:56 AM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar
BTW, re your "and blind" comment, I don't evaluate ANY of the contestants on the basis of their looks, only on how I perceive their vocal abilities.

Ummm I think that that 'blind' comment indicates what they vote for. ;)

2,385 posted on 05/11/2006 9:17:54 AM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: TonyWpi
That said, I'm sorry to see Chris go. Katharine is good but she had 2 bad weeks in a row and by all rights should have gone home. Even SHE knew that. You could see it in her face during the whole show!

That's for sure. She looked like a bundle of nerves. Even she was shocked she wasn't going home. Both of her songs started great, but then somewhere towards the middle went horribly awry.

Maybe it's just my inability to take much seriously, but I can't see getting so completely hostile over Chris not making it to the finals. This morning I got up and life as I knew it was still churning. The homeland security threat level hadn't even been raised. If by some circumstance Kat wins, then God bless her. She's not my fav, but life will go on.

2,386 posted on 05/11/2006 9:18:02 AM PDT by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: TonyWpi
You thought he was going to be serious and he broke out with: So how come you Chris fans didn't vote to keep him on the show!

Good job! He put the blame squarely where it belongs.

2,387 posted on 05/11/2006 9:19:25 AM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Texas2step

With Cowell's stake in this I would have assumed he would know. $36 million a year makes you a wheel.

No matter.

And, no, there is still a conspiracy afoot against Chris

brought about by the tri-lateral interests backed by the CFR and financed by Haliburton.

NO BLOOD FOR OIL!!!


2,388 posted on 05/11/2006 9:19:50 AM PDT by misterrob (Jack Bauer has Elliott Yamin on his MP3 player)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Funny ... I thought this was a talent contest. Taylor has personality in capital letters but he doesn't have the commercial talent to complete the entire package. I'm still stunned with last nights results.


2,389 posted on 05/11/2006 9:19:55 AM PDT by girlscout
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Last I heard Fuel is looking for a new lead singer.


2,390 posted on 05/11/2006 9:20:36 AM PDT by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: Netizen

Watching that again, I feel the need to defend Ryan some more, to be his "beard", if you will ;) After the announcement, he went on to call Chris a "star" several times and clearly conveyed surprise at the result. So it wasn't like Ryan was trying to be an ass or anything.


2,391 posted on 05/11/2006 9:20:50 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: misterrob
Kat cannot sing power tunes like Kelly Clarkson and she cannot handle big balads like a Mariah Carey, Where does that leave her?

There is plenty of room between Mariah Carey and Kelly Clarkson. Kat just needs to settle down on a music style that suits her best. Unfortunately, the music business guys don't look at it that way. They will have her doing rap if they think that is what will sell. If it was up to me I would have her sing cross-over classical. That is really the style that suits her voice best. To bad the TeenyBoppers are not big fans of that genre. It is very much under-populated style right now - we have Sarah Brightman & Andrea Bocelli and then it gets pretty thin.

2,392 posted on 05/11/2006 9:21:42 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Netizen

People simply do not act rationally around this show. And you know it.



BO BICE

'nuff said.


2,393 posted on 05/11/2006 9:22:02 AM PDT by misterrob (Jack Bauer has Elliott Yamin on his MP3 player)
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To: kevkrom
I think she'll be great in a recording studio, but she really needs to work on her live performances.

I agree, completely. She'll record fine. But, she needs much better coaching/training for live performances, and she needs someone to help her pick songs.
2,394 posted on 05/11/2006 9:22:04 AM PDT by Texas2step (<><)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

People like Chris need guitars and drums and music behind them. I am also a rock music fan and like some of the current "alt-rock" stuff but I think it is all sounding too similar.

I agree Chris is not a solo artist and that is not a dig at him.


2,395 posted on 05/11/2006 9:22:13 AM PDT by RobFromGa (In decline, the Driveby Media is thrashing about like dinosaurs caught in the tar pits.)
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To: Wolfstar

He's singing here in Richmond tomorrow.


2,396 posted on 05/11/2006 9:23:41 AM PDT by misterrob (Jack Bauer has Elliott Yamin on his MP3 player)
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To: Texas2step
Seriously, hopefully this will at least put the conspiracy theories to bed.

Well, it tucked my theories in, since I was sure a couple of weeks ago that AI was setting it up for a Chris/Kat finale. Now we have a new set of theories from the Chris Crowd claiming Taylor is the CO.

Bottom line, I suppose, is that AI does do some manipulating, but with the end of keeping viewers tuned in and selling ad time. That's why I think they made it look like Taylor was giving a swan song last night. Vote totals are leaked early now and seem to be accurate. So they needed people to think someone other than the actual bottom two might be in trouble.
2,397 posted on 05/11/2006 9:25:02 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Texas2step
The way I see it breaking down, depnding on who is left standing next week:


2,398 posted on 05/11/2006 9:25:36 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: Wolfstar
Elliott is a pure joy to watch and listen to

I really like Chris, and thought he would win, but I always voted only for Elliott.

2,399 posted on 05/11/2006 9:25:47 AM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: girlscout
Funny ... I thought this was a talent contest. Taylor has personality in capital letters but he doesn't have the commercial talent to complete the entire package. I'm still stunned with last nights results.

It isn't a talent contest, any more than one could claim the current chart-topping artists are the "most talented" ones available. Reality is, it takes a combination of natural ability, charisma, and looks to win in life and on this show.

2,400 posted on 05/11/2006 9:25:57 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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