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(Somebody's) List of Best novels of all time

Posted on 02/17/2006 8:31:22 AM PST by Borges

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To: nopardons

TPP is there for historical value more then anything else. The first quarter is a bit dry but it gets much better as it goes along.


141 posted on 02/17/2006 1:56:58 PM PST by Borges
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
It appears that we belong to the same club! :-)

"THE WOMAN IN WHITE"? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh..."THE MOONSTONE" is a far better book. TWIW, is nothing more than one of the last "Gothic" novels, which had been done to death already. La Fanu's "THE WYVERN MYSTERY" has a similar theme and is far superior to "THE WOMAN IN WHITE".

142 posted on 02/17/2006 1:58:41 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
It appears that we belong to the same club! :-)

"THE WOMAN IN WHITE"? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh..."THE MOONSTONE" is a far better book. TWIW, is nothing more than one of the last "Gothic" novels, which had been done to death already. Le Fanu's "THE WYVERN MYSTERY" has a similar theme and is far superior to "THE WOMAN IN WHITE".

143 posted on 02/17/2006 2:00:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

But The Moonstone has never prompted an Andrew Lloyd Webber musical so how good can it really be?? :-) /sarc


144 posted on 02/17/2006 2:00:57 PM PST by Borges
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To: nopardons

Then you should start with Chekov's short stories.


145 posted on 02/17/2006 2:02:32 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Borges

They make better movies than books, for just that reason; far too much "junk" to read through or have to skip over. That's why I don't like them.


146 posted on 02/17/2006 2:03:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
For an absolute howler, rad Nancy Mitford's The Pursuit of Love

The actions of Uncle Matthew at Alconleigh, his total lack of political correctness was hysterical.

147 posted on 02/17/2006 2:04:09 PM PST by mware (The keeper of the I's once again.)
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To: Borges
Yes, I understand that, but as I said, I am REALLY a Dickens' nut and I have always HATED this book of his.

"BLEAK HOUSE" is good, but so are "HARD TIMES", "OLIVER TWIST", "THE OLD CURIOSTY SHOP", "NICHOLAS NICKLEBY" and on and on and on. Just because TPP was his first, it doesn't belong on the list; JMO.

148 posted on 02/17/2006 2:07:46 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Borges

LOL...LOL...LOL


149 posted on 02/17/2006 2:08:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

No film version can ever find the cinematic equivalent of Tolstoy's prose which is like Life itself is writing. In War and EPace the philosphical chapters are very clearly seperated and are easily skipped. Anna Karnin has nothing at all to skip.


150 posted on 02/17/2006 2:09:19 PM PST by Borges
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I was forced to read that, looooooooooooooooooong ago. I just don't like Russian author's at all. :-)


151 posted on 02/17/2006 2:09:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Borges

Okay, I'll grant you the former, but the latter? Maybe I should reread it, now, as an adult.


152 posted on 02/17/2006 2:11:27 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Oliver Twist is substandard Dickens IMO. But TPP revolsutioned the publishing industry. I think that's the primary reason its there. Uncle Tom's Cabin isn't exactly a literary masterwork either. Interestingly enough, Tolstoy came to prefer it to his own novels for its high moral value.
153 posted on 02/17/2006 2:11:43 PM PST by Borges
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To: nopardons

Chekhov invented the modern short story (and modern drama)! Not Katherine Mansfield, not Hemmingway...but the man from Russia.


154 posted on 02/17/2006 2:13:24 PM PST by Borges
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To: justshutupandtakeit

When you take up Faulkner's work as a corpus, then you have to put the Hamlet trilogy up near the top. I have to admit, I am a sucker for people that write interconnected stories like Faulkner did, and the history of Yoknapatawpha county that comes out as you digest it all is a neat structure and frame. And he does it so well.




155 posted on 02/17/2006 2:15:32 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Borges

And they're so good. And they are so readable. I used to have my remedial English students read at least one Chekov story a semester.


156 posted on 02/17/2006 2:17:08 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Borges

Yep. Uncle Tom's Cabin was the right book at the right moment...but it's not great literature. Just significant.


157 posted on 02/17/2006 2:22:13 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Borges
Uncle Tom's Cabin isn't exactly a literary masterwork either.

And that's another thing. If I were to make two lists, starting with a list of novels important for their historical impact, it would be quite a different list in some respects than a list of novels selected for their literary quality. I don't think anyone can deny the historical import of Uncle Tom's Cabin, but as literature, Uncle Tom's Cabin has almost as much style and depth as my son's "Incredible Hulk" comics.

158 posted on 02/17/2006 2:23:20 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Senator Bedfellow

One could say the same thing about Les Miserables for that matter.


159 posted on 02/17/2006 2:24:43 PM PST by Borges
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To: All

http://www.bway.net/~hunger/ch1-ulys.html


160 posted on 02/17/2006 2:29:50 PM PST by Borges
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