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Now that New Orleans is 100% blight...(Eminent Domain thoughts?)
vanity | 9/6/05 | RGSpincich

Posted on 09/06/2005 7:28:34 PM PDT by RGSpincich

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To: wdkeller


"Would YOU want to live in a house that had been soaking in a toxic cesspool for two weeks?"

Ever hear of Wolmanized lumber? That is toxic and it surrounds most homes in the US


81 posted on 09/06/2005 8:27:21 PM PDT by spanalot (and they should not stop other first responders like the red cross.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
I don't know the neighborhoods of NO, but looking through the 2000 census housing stats for NO, it looks like well over 60% of the residences in the completely flooded areas are rental properties. Many of these owners will take the insurance and federal grant money and run, simply put.

Yup. That's what I've been thinking too.

82 posted on 09/06/2005 8:27:37 PM PDT by AntiGuv (sorry .. i couldn't resist!!)
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To: JerseyHighlander
Many of these owners will take the insurance and federal grant money and run, simply put.

What becomes of the property? Insurance companies don't take title, they settle the claim with cash. Do you think government grant money will require the property owner deed to the government, guess that would make it a sale though. Another choice, property would be abandoned?

83 posted on 09/06/2005 8:28:23 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: AntiGuv

No, it certainly won't be highrise. Why should it? There is plenty of land. This will be a fascinating experiment in any event.


84 posted on 09/06/2005 8:29:52 PM PDT by Torie
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To: spanalot
Not in the South. They will be condemned for black mold instantly. I have close family experience with this and Hurricane Ivan.
85 posted on 09/06/2005 8:30:04 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: JerseyHighlander; AntiGuv

Few are insured in those zip codes for flood insurance. If they get money and run, the money won't be from insurance.


86 posted on 09/06/2005 8:31:27 PM PDT by Torie
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To: RGSpincich

Buy stock in catapillar and Gradall Industries, these boys are going to be real busy for years. lol


87 posted on 09/06/2005 8:32:17 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: anonsquared

Yeah, expect Democrats to repeat the Robert Taylor Homes fiasco:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Taylor_Homes


88 posted on 09/06/2005 8:38:07 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: RGSpincich

No. He needs voters 6 months from now when the election is held. Most of the people who stay will rebuild their houses. The locals in N.O. are funny that way. However, many won't come back or died.


89 posted on 09/06/2005 8:39:12 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: AntiGuv

I'm not too sure that a new arrival hispanic population will replace the current construction trades people in NOLA. The pay is so low down there, most illegals can make more working almost anywhere else in the country. Looking at the pay scale down there, illegals in NJ make more than union construction workers in NOLA. It's mind boggling to this guy from NJ.

I'd expect anti-illegal rhetoric coming out of the NOLA labor unions when the large federal reconstruction programs are announced, similar to the America of a hundred years ago, or even Depression era America, with all of the racist rhetoric, marches, strikes, and unrest.


90 posted on 09/06/2005 8:39:42 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: RGSpincich

You Betcha!


91 posted on 09/06/2005 8:40:21 PM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: Torie

most lumber is not kiln dried - its green and the water oozes out of it - it can be a bit warped if not sheetrocked quickly - but I have done these renos and it is plausible.


92 posted on 09/06/2005 8:42:31 PM PDT by spanalot (and they should not stop other first responders like the red cross.)
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To: AntiGuv
The future "underclass" of New Orleans will be primarily Latino immigrants associated with the construction. The New New Orleans will be a totally different city.

I wonder what the cuisine will be like? Is it even possible to mix crawdads and okra in with Tex-Mex cooking and have it come out tasty?

93 posted on 09/06/2005 8:44:37 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Torie

I was thinking more of the part that a lot of the people living in the low-income neighborhoods didn't actually own the property, and so have nothing to tie them back to New Orleans besides emotional attachments. Of course, emotional attachments can be very strong, but the New Orleans of the future will not be the New Orleans that they were attached to, and the people attachments have been scattered far and wide as well.

Again, one has to consider what motivates a low-income person to stay where they're at or to return where they left. First and foremost, economic opportunity. A lot of people don't move because they can't. They don't have the financial mobility. These people now do. People who take jobs will want to stick with them. Single mothers with kids will stay wherever they think it helps their kids - that will mostly be wherever they're relocated. People who take advantage of new education/training opportunities will stay wherever they find them. That will obviously be somewhere other than New Orleans.

A lot of them will plan to move back to New Orleans "some day" and some day will never come around, just like happens with a majority of immigrants. There kids will adapt to their new settings, or grow up in them, and they will move on. Etc, etc. Of course, a lot depends on how swiftly New Orleans gets back into swing, and my premise is that it'll take a while.


94 posted on 09/06/2005 8:45:17 PM PDT by AntiGuv (sorry .. i couldn't resist!!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

"They will be condemned for black mold instantly. "

Well they can condemn for whatever they want - we sprayed with chlorine solution and had no problem.


95 posted on 09/06/2005 8:46:17 PM PDT by spanalot (and they should not stop other first responders like the red cross.)
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To: Torie

Granted, it's worth noting that a substantial portion of the refugees have been to date resettled in the armit of America (Houston) and if anything sends them fleeing back to New Orleans that may very well do it. ;^)


96 posted on 09/06/2005 8:49:29 PM PDT by AntiGuv (sorry .. i couldn't resist!!)
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To: RGSpincich; Torie
Combinations of Eminent Domain, land swaps, and interest levels of major developers. The state, parish and/or city will charter a new land claim court or commission, and force owners into the entity's arbitrage framework.

Obviously many other factors involved.
97 posted on 09/06/2005 8:50:29 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: AntiGuv

LOL. Houston reminds me of LA more than any other city in America, built about the same time, and to automobile specifications. When I walked around in downtown, the similarities to downtown LA in architecture, and everything else, were eerie man, eerie. All it lacks is mountains (or topography of any kind of any interest, and LA is all about topography), beaches and climate. Otherwise it is just about the same. :)


98 posted on 09/06/2005 8:53:08 PM PDT by Torie
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To: spanalot

There were class action lawsuits last year that will make ignoring the toxic variety of black mold much more difficult for rental property owners to ignore the dangers. Anyone with deep pockets will be a target of the vultures and a financially disadvantaged populace. Think on the bright side, they're going to need to build entire subdivisions for the hordes of lawyers that are going to descend upon NOLA.


99 posted on 09/06/2005 8:54:34 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: plain talk
He needs voters

I do agree. If those left in NO feel that Nagin is responsible for bringing in new jobs , via promises from developers, he will get the votes.

100 posted on 09/06/2005 8:59:41 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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