Ice ages linked to earth's travels through galaxy

Waterbury Republican-American ^ | August 2, 2005 | Keay Davidson (A.P.)

[mad puppy]

Let me be the first:

Still, Bush's fault.

[Kevin OMalley]

Sounds a little bit like Velikovsky's theory, which mainstream science would never admit.

[cripplecreek]

It just goes to show that there are so many little understood processes going on that we can't make a firm determination.

[Dog Gone]

Sounds a little bit like Velikovsky's theory, which mainstream science would never admit.

I assume you do.

[NonValueAdded]

Of course, the remedy will be to pump CO₂ into the atmosphere to counteract the cooling.

[satchmodog9]

http://www.kronia.com/library/journals/censor.txt

[Brainhose]

Cosmic Rays?? Anyone who was hooked on the Fantastic Four comics in the 60's know that is what made them change into superheroes. Cool, We'll be a planet of superheroes!
And it will all be Bush's fault!

[Kevin OMalley]

Too much reading for now. But thanks for the link.

[lunarbicep]

Sounds a little bit like Velikovsky's theory, which mainstream science would never admit.

sounds more like the GOD theory too me, also something mainstream science would never admit

[Kevin OMalley]

It's one of those interdisciplinary theories that only experts can parse successfully. I read through Carl Sagan's critique of Velikovsky, and I have my doubts about both sides. Just this week, cosmology has been turned on its head because the comet that had a probe smash into it turned out not to be a big ball of ice. Some of Velikovsky's predictions proved to be true, but I think most of it has been debunked.

I think it's possible the Russians were keenly interested in Velikovsky, which is why they sent so many probes to Venus rather than Mars.

This particular side of Velikovsky had to do with his theory that Noah's flood was caused by the earth going through the tail of a comet and all the water precipitation that resulted, which is probably not the case.

All I can say is, I'm fascinated. The more I read, the more I learn. And I prefer to pick up both sides of a controversy before I come to any conclusions. Since I'm not a geologist nor cosmologist, it takes me longer.

[Dog Gone]

I read Velikovsky in the early 1970s, maybe late 60s, I forget. It was my dad's book, and I was intially quite impressed.

I'm not scientist, but I've read enough rebuttal material because of my initial interest in his publications to now think that he was wrong.

Nothing wrong in floating new ideas. Einstein surely did. But let them sink or float based on their merits.

And largely, I think that is what has happened.

[Kevin OMalley]

Yep. It was more than 30 years ago that I heard his theory, my dad read the book. One thing I appreciated about it was that it opened my mind at an early age. But there is enough hokiness in the theory for it to be discarded, mostly.

Some of his stuff is VERY intriguing, though. For instance, I think he was the first to point out that all the ancient calendars had 360 days. His premise was that it wasn't that they couldn't count but that the earth took 360 days to revolve around the sun at the time. I wonder if he was onto something. So I keep my ears tuned to stuff that might have bearing in his theory and keep mulling it over...

When I look at both sides of Van Danniken's theory, I see he was pretty full of horse manure. There was a great video that rips his theory to shreds, I can't remember the name of it.

[Kevin OMalley]

Since I was the one who posted the original comment, I'll presume you intended your response for me.

The GOD stuff is something I have spent considerable time investigating, and it is completely different because one can come to a conclusion without being an expert.

The best book I read on the subject was "Jesus: God, Ghost or Guru?" by Buell & Hyder. It's out of print. I guess the best alternative would be "The Case for Christ" by Strobel.

There is a growing number of scientists who see evidence of a creator in our creation, and many have accepted Christ. When I look through the creation/evolution/abiogenesis threads, it's easy to see that Scientism is just another religion, albeit a rather sophisticated one.

[beaver fever]

Let me be the first.

"16-year-old student at Grady High School in Atlanta, John Helsel"

16 years old???????????

[PoorMuttly]

I TOLD it not to travel through the galaxy....but did it listen.....????

[mmercier]

>> Sounds a little bit like Velikovsky's theory, which mainstream science would never admit.

You beat me to it, that thought is what stopped me on this thread.

I dug out "worlds In Collision" last week due to another thread.

If the milky way galaxy is indeed a spiraling mass, logic would dictate that the spiral is encountering varying environs as it moves through space.

Immanuel Velikovsky was ahead of his time. I think "mainstream" science is going to eventually have to acknowledge his work, if they have not already.

[Kevin OMalley]

16 years old

Let me be the first to suggest that this kid is wasting his time in high school.


We have been discussing ways to fast track kids through high school to avoid the liberal agenda and other idiocies:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315730/posts?page=84#84

Unfortunately my thread title was not well thought out, because some parents might instinctively skip over it due to attached stigma, whether real or imagined.

[billl]

jesus - god ghost or guru is available used on amazon and i would guess other places.

following your reco, I've ordered a paper copy for $7

thanks.

cs lewis wrote about this also. I guess its a common topic.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks, Graybeard58 for posting the topic.

This is a Catastrophism & Astronomy topic for GGG.

The late Eugene Shoemaker (geologist, codiscoverer of the comets SL-9 which smashed into Jupiter in 1994) thought that the traverse through the galaxy may be what shakes loose the supposed Oort Cloud objects, which then come through the inner solar system, and bring on the supposed clusters of impacts, such as those which end the paleontological periods.

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