Posted on 07/27/2005 9:26:34 AM PDT by GPBurdell
Man is a fighting, enslaving animal. Only a fool would deny that, given our history.
However, man also has the ability to choose...and that includes to choose not to kill.
Then why do you hate plants so much?
You can choose not to kill. There are those out there that won't make the same decision though. Your overt pacifism could get you killed someday. Much better to be the hunter instead of the hunted.
I'm a native american, too. I was born in North Carolina.
Your excuse could be that you're a "cultural" hunter, as I was. I grew up in rural North Carolina, where everyone hunted. It was a natural part of life. Then I moved out of the swamps and grew up.
I'm perfectly willing to have you find me sad and pathetic. I'm an omnivore by nature. I was created this way.
From a naturalistic point of view, the position of my eyes, the structure of my teeth, my digestion...all these point to the body of a creature made to kill and eat. Should you look on the faith side from a Christian perspective, again you see that animals are given by God to humans as suitable food.
I don't mind if you don't want to eat meat. In return, please don't object to me choosing my own course.
I'm trying my darndest to move into the swamps and get the heck out of the city so I can eat venison year round.
There you go again, generalizing. I retain the right to defend myself and my family. I practice Isshinryu karate assiduously, and protect my house with any of the four firearms I keep, if necessary.
Further, my Phd is in a military science field, which interest is derived from my coming from a military family, no doubt.
Just because I don't hunt doesn't mean I'm a pacifist. You're assuming incorrectly.
I don't care if you eat meat. My Mrs. is quite the carnivore.
It's none of my business.
What I object to is people reflexively attacking me because I'm a vegetarian (and for no other reason), and for romanticising hunting, which is simply killing for fun.
Whatever.
Then your attitude is a baffling one. If you are as highly educated as you say you are, then surely you should have picked up some basic biology. We are omnivores and thrive best on a variety of food sources.
Hey, I agreed with you that I kill for fun, but you wouldn't leave it at that. I tell you what...I'll let you have the last word. After this, I'm done with the topic.
Good day.
I am a vegetarian, and have thrived without eating carrion for more than twenty years. Your claim is baseless.
Thank you for the last word.
Killing for fun signifies a pathology. Other words, it's sadistic and sick, and is the mark of a coward.
Thank you for your time.
Argue with tens of thousands of years worth of human existance. Your temporary fad diet will be a footnote in history.
Unlike yourself, I don't need to imagine hordes of strangers standing behind me to bolster my self-image. I am very happy being a vegetarian, and would remain so if I was the only one one on earth.
Bolstering my self image? I'm not the one denying basic biology here with an extremist view on a dietary fad.
My view only applies to myself. I find being a vegetarian personally rewarding and the discipline is useful. And I'm not one of those insecure people who have to list all the famous people who were vegetarians to bolster my argument and self-esteem (and who always leave out Hitler).
That being said, Aristotle would be surprised to find out that a manly, hairy-chested individual like yourself would consider his eating habits a passing fad.
You DO realize that getting emotional about something like eating habits indicates that you're insecure somehow, don't you? If you weren't, then you'd just go "whatever rings your bell, bud." Instead, you insult and attack. Very manly.
By the way, even while I'm wasting time with you, I'm researching commentary on David Galula's "Counterinsurgency" for a book I'm writing. Some of these pdf's take a while to download.
Just in case you're insecure about your intellectual level, too, ha.
I'm insulting you? A bit touchy aren't you? I'm just pointing out that thousands of years of evolution run contrary to your chosen habits. If you have a problem with that, tough. Reality is a bitch.
Hey, I just looked at your profile page. I should have done this a long time ago.
I'm certain your mommy is very, very proud.
//and more seriously, thank you for your service in the Corps. My daddy was a 35-year lifer.
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