Dimensional Door - Freeople Thread 22

Today | Me

[Borax Queen]

This time it IS Darks' fault.

[sweetliberty]

"I thought the doors were locked up and everyone moved on somewhere else and forgot to ping me."

Nah, we only do that to Nully.

[sweetliberty]

"This time it IS Darks' fault."

Probably.

[Lakeshark]

We just got here......it's beautiful, maybe as nice as any place in the world, but it took *&*(&*((&7 half a *&*&^&* hour to load from this dial up.

It must be Darks fault.

There must be a better solution than dial-up.........the truth is out there somewhere......

[sweetliberty]

I don't know how much access I will have while I am traveling. My daughter has internet service and so does my dad so I will probably be able to check in at least, not that there is that much going on. This place is so dead, next thing you know, Darks will be haunting it.

[Lakeshark]

Oooooh....glad you posted or Darks would have accused me of killing the thread.....

When you leave, all the plants are gonna die.

*sniff*......

Gran, come save us with a pic.....

[ValerieUSA]

dip

The last time we had rain was june 1 - it was also the last day the high temp didn't make it to 90.
This was the dryest June here on record since 1970. No change in sight.

[Woliff]

New Jersey Town Says Patriot Act Lets Train Stations Bar Homeless

By Wayne Parry Associated Press Writer
Published: Jun 30, 2005

NEWARK, N.J. (AP) - The USA Patriot Act, in the name of fighting terrorism, allows the government to find out which books and Internet sites a person has seen. It lets investigators secretly search homes and monitor phone calls and e-mail.

Now, officials in the wealthy New York City suburb of Summit are using the law to justify forcing homeless people to leave a train station - an action that sparked a $5 million federal lawsuit by a homeless man.

Richard Kreimer, who filed the lawsuit in March after being kicked out of the train station, said the Patriot Act defense makes no sense.

"Unless they've been smoking those funny cigarettes, I can't see how my civil lawsuit has anything to do with the Patriot Act," said Kreimer, 55, who is acting as his own attorney.

But Summit officials argue they are protected by a provision regarding "attacks and other violence against mass transportation systems." Town attorney Harry Yospin, who did not return calls seeking comment Tuesday and Wednesday, has used the law as one of more than a dozen defenses in the case.

Edward Barocas, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union of New Jersey, said the Patriot Act defense is weak: "Nothing in the Patriot Act lets them kick homeless people out of train stations."

The U.S. Justice Department also criticized Summit's use of the law.

"That represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what the Patriot Act is," spokesman Kevin Madden said Wednesday. "The Patriot Act is a law enforcement tool to identify and track terrorists and stop them from further attacks on America. To apply it to this case is, shall we say, an overreaching application of the law."

Kreimer garnered national attention in 1991 after suing Morristown, the Morris Township public library and the police department over his treatment there. The library threw him out at least five times, claiming his body odor and the way he looked at library patrons offended them.

A federal judge ruled the library's rules on hygiene were unconstitutional - a decision that was overturned, but not before Kreimer had been paid. Kreimer has said he spent the settlement on lawyers, living expenses and medical bills.

In the latest case, Kreimer is seeking at least $5 million in damages from the city of Summit, NJ Transit, nine police officers and several others, claiming he and other homeless people have been unlawfully thrown out of train stations since August.

He also wants a judge to decide whether transit stations are public or private property, and whether people who do not have train tickets have the right to be in them.

The state Attorney General's office, on behalf of NJ Transit, has called the lawsuit frivolous and a sham but did not cite the Patriot Act. City Administrator Christopher Cotter said the municipality does not comment on active litigation.

Since the lawsuit was filed, NJ Transit has announced plans to create "ticket-only" zones limiting areas of train and bus stations to passengers holding tickets.

AP-ES-06-30-05 0508EDT

[grannie9]

In the year 2005, the Lord came unto Noah, who was now living in the
United States, and said, "Once again, the earth has become wicked
and over-populated and I see the end of all flesh before me.

Build another Ark and save two of every living thing along with a few
good humans."

He gave Noah the blueprints, saying, "You have six months to build
the Ark before I will start the unending rain for 40 days and 40
nights".

Six months later, the Lord looked down and saw Noah weeping in his
yard.... but no ark.

"Noah", He roared, "I'm about to start the rain! Where is the Ark?"

"Forgive me, Lord," begged Noah. "But things have changed."

(This will make you chuckle, unfortunately, it can be true!!)

"-I needed a building permit.

-I've been arguing with the inspector about the need for a sprinkler
system.

-My neighbors claim that I've violated the neighborhood zoning laws
by building the Ark in my yard and exceeding the height limitations.

-We had to go to the Development Appeal Board for a decision.

-Then the Department of Transportation demanded a bond be posted for
the future costs of moving power lines and other overhead
obstructions, to clear the passage for the Ark's move to the sea.

-I argued that the sea would be coming to us, but they would hear
nothing of it.

-Getting the wood was another problem.

-There's a ban on cutting local trees in order to save the spotted
owl. I tried to convince the environmentalists that I needed the
wood to save the owls. But no go!

-When I started gathering the animals, I got sued by an animal
rights group. They insisted that I was confining wild animals
against their will

-As well, they argued the accommodation was too restrictive and it
was cruel and inhumane to put so many animals in a confined space.

-Then the EPA ruled that I couldn't build the Ark until they'd
conducted an environmental impact study on your proposed flood.

-I'm still trying to resolve a complaint with the Human Rights
Commission on how many minorities I'm supposed to hire for my
building crew.

-Also, the trades unions say I can't use my sons. They insist I have
to hire only Union workers with Ark building experience.

-To make matters worse, the IRS seized all my assets, claiming I'm
trying to leave the country illegally with endangered species.

So, forgive me, Lord, but it would take at least ten years for me to
finish this Ark."

Suddenly the skies cleared, the sun began to shine, and a rainbow
stretched across the sky.

Noah looked up in wonder and asked, "You mean, You're not going to
destroy the world?"

"No," said the Lord. "The government beat me to it."

[Woliff]

So true.

[grannie9]

Does this help? ;)

[grannie9]

I'm looking for Darks, where is he?

[Lakeshark]

Of course........new subject though......

No snakes, squirrels, ghosts, or sharks.......dang......guess that means SL left......

It took a *&&%&^%^%^&%& looooooooong atime to load that pic.

So how goes NH today.....we're warm and very humid, had some rain already.

[Darksheare]

Oh dear...

[Lakeshark]

The insanity of liberalism......

I'm just certain that Bush is targeting the homeless to get rich off Halliburton, while us "suckers" lose our freedom......>sarcasm

[Lakeshark]

She's just trying to bolster your image again........ixnay on the asparcay uffstay.......:-)

Hey.....off to rig the windsurfer....check back in later.

[Darksheare]

Ohhh..
But Caspar doesn't keep souls in a jar.
Unless he does and only has the squeeky clean image up front to suck people in..

[grannie9]

The weather there sounds about the same as here. I'm starting to mold and so are the flowers.

I'm getting sick of running the air, but the humidity is terrible.

Sorry about the loading of the pics. Dial-up sux bigtime, but it's better than nothing I guess. I'll be without even that when I go off for a week. I'll have my laptop, but that will be for storing my pics from the camera. :(

My niece in the 'big house' has cable, but I don't think the smaller camps do. Oh Woe.

[grannie9]

She's looking for her 'familiar'. ;)

[grannie9]

OH yeah....that should help that bad back...