GWB HAS NOT FORSAKEN TERRI- YOU DO HIM WRONG!

[maine-iac7]

How remarkable is it that Nat Hentoff, Ralph Nader, Jesse Jackson, GW Bush and the Pope are on the same side here?

and have you seen Lani Davis - that liberal POS - making a real good argument for saving Terri? 'coulda knocked me over with a stick.

This crosses all lines: political/religious/racial. It's a HUMAN issue.

I hope we'll gain from it. It's harder to hate and try to destroy someone you've gotten to know

[maine-iac7]

BTW, you call it swaggering - in Texas, it's called "walking." ;-)

he he

I loved that line

[maine-iac7]

Night - me too - 2:30 back here. Bleary eyed.

Watched it get light this morning before I gave up -

can't keep doing that.

Pray for good happenings tomorrow...

Thanks for being here tonight!

[ran15]

The Republican party after trying to stand up to liberal establishment.

[Echo Talon]

Your mind is in the right place... Although, I dont know if George would use Jesse Jackson. On second thought why not? The media HAS to cover him, its a law or something.

[Kings18-37]

Echo,
You get Jackson Bill and Hillary to come out publicly for reinsertion, this think changes in a heart beat.

They are my arch rivals, but I'd beg them to save Terri.

NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! CHIRCHILL

[Nachum]

Thanks for a reasoned reply. I have thought about it and waited until now to reply.-

The point of the post is that the only way to save Terri is via a bipartisan Mercy Coalition and assessing blame now is not doing anything to help Terri.

I believe that there is no bipartisanism in our government. They have shown over GWB's term's in office that they do not care about right and wrong and have a different mentality than we do. Their conscience is clear about any action they take to remove the president from office. That is why it is futile to bargain with them. It is futile to argue about Roe vs. Wade, futile to argue about gun control, futile to argue about taxes, nationalized medicine, and "bioethics" (euthanasia). They will never compromise and constantly scheme in nefarious ways to have their way.

Clinton stormed little Elian because the press gave him a free ride. But let's give you your way. Bush storms the hospice and takes her into some form of protective custody. The media blows it into a constitutional crisis, and says Bush is running a police state. We lose the majority...

The press constantly gave Clinton free rides on everything. He was their ideological leader. They constantly attack Bush on everything he is their ideological and religious enemy. Bush will be attacked on any action he takes. To the left, he is the Devil. They will not negotiate with him in good faith.

What use is having the power of the greatest office in the land if one does not use that power? Every conservative commentator has scratched their heads trying to understand why the Bush administration cowtows to the very people they defeated in the election. I have wondered the very same thing. So far, the Republicans have not used their power to put in any judges at all. The Democrats have filibustered. The Repubicans have not used their majority to legally change the house rules to put the judges they want in. I have to assume that even if they carry the majority again, the results of the election will be the same. Inaction, no judicial appointments of their liking, and a pacifism of the left. We have a track record now of one complete 4 year term to go on. Why should it be any different?

Do I advocate a military attack on the hospice? Sitting comfortably in my chair, I would like very much to see armed paratroopers lay seige to the hospice, give the parents their daughter and throw the "police" in the hospice in a military prison for a while until their lawyers and a lot of their own money have been spent.

If I was sitting in GWB's chair? I don't know.

It could also be that taking real tangible action would present a "sea change" and force the Republicans to forcefully move forward with governing the country for whatever time is given to them. You like to quote Churchill. Here is another one for you:

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.

[churchillbuff]

maybe GWB realized that neither he nor Jeb could act in any manner in this situation that would garner public support. """

Certainly not if they refuse to publicly address the issue. By remaining silent, they forego the opportunity to turn public opinion in Terri's direction. They concede the "debate" to the mainstream media, which wants Terri dead. Both Bush brothers have been profiles in disgusting cowardice over the past seven days -- ever since the polls suggested that there might be political risk in saving Terri from the killers. PUT NOT YOUR TRUST IN PRINCES - EVEN IF THEY HAVE R AFTER THEIR NAME, OR BELONGED TO SKULL AND BONES!

[Kings18-37]

Nach,

I don't really disagree The Dems are a union of hard line groups, and they vote their 43% just like a union. Example, NOW never coming out for the impeachment of Clinton with Monica, frauds all.

But, not at all to be critical, but just to show the problem Bush faces. For instance, you say "Bush will be attacked on any action he takes. To the left, he is the Devil"- but then you ask reasonably "What use is having the power of the greatest office in the land if one does not use that power?"

But, you see. He did use power, and look what happened. He and the Pubs passed this Fed legislation and immediately, the public turned on him (43% in polls). He just doesn't have that sort of mandate to do anything he pleases.

Here, the Pubs did absolutely wrong- they tried to jam legislation down the throats of some powerful forces- mainly the judiciary. Those Judges from the housing court to the Chief Justice are just like one union- you attack one, you attack all. You can see that in the 10-2 vote in the conservative 11th district! And Terri's taking the fall for it.

So, in this thread, I'm giving Bush the benefit of the doubt. Since he sees that he and his brother are the lightning rod, and that he's ticked off the judiciary and all the rest who think he's the Devil, maybe he's saying the only way to save Terri is for me to not be the focus- appeal to some Dems to lead the way- so that the judiciary won't see this as Bush against the Judiciary- but rather,
Jesse Jackson appealing to the judiciary. I hope I've made that clear- I think he knows that given the anger that he's caused in the judiciary, he has to step out if Terri is to be saved.

As for Pubs flexing muscle to run the country, they just did with this legislation. Do you see what they're up against? People on this Board, probably all pubs, can't even form a majority.

I know just how you feel. I sympathize with your views, and frankly, agree with most of your feelings.

But, my sole reason for being on this Board is to try to save Terri. And to do that, the Pubs have to reach out to those "union group" Dems, and get some support- or it won't happen.

Like your quote.

[Kings18-37]

Churchill,

Please read my response in Post 149, the one to Nachum. Thanks


NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! CHIRCHILL

[mjaneangels@aolcom]

"Michael Schiavo last week invited both the President and the Governor to visit his wife. I think they should go."


He told a reporter that President Bush was invited. That is not the same as an invitation. If he invited the President down, he would have a copy and would have had it published.

Sorry, I see no credibiblity here that Schiavo wants the President or anyone else visiting his wife. He just wants his name in the papers and on TV.

[PhatHead]

Well, I'd call it an invitation, as it was reported:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1367576/posts

If you're saying Schiavo wasn't sincere, I certainly agree. But he said it, and I still think it would have been quite powerful for them (at least Jeb) to have called him on it.