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PCWorld.com via Yahoo! news ^ | Thu Dec 16, 3:00 AM ET | Michael Desmond

Posted on 12/20/2004 10:09:29 PM PST by Redcloak

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A little more grist for the mill.
1 posted on 12/20/2004 10:09:30 PM PST by Redcloak
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To: Redcloak

I like the speed and compatibility of IE, but I like the tabbed interface of more modern browsers, so I use AvantBrowser now. It uses the IE engine for compatibility, but has the tabbed interface and customizability of the modern browsers. Just my two-cents.

http://www.avantbrowser.com


2 posted on 12/20/2004 10:13:58 PM PST by rivercat (Welcome to California. Now go home.)
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To: Redcloak

I run Netscape 7x on my desktop and Firefox on my laptops.


3 posted on 12/20/2004 10:15:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Redcloak
Firefox rocks. I used Mozilla a couple of years ago, didn't like it.

Downloaded Firefox a month ago and can't believe how good it is. Will never go back.

4 posted on 12/20/2004 10:15:53 PM PST by 506trooper (There is no such thing as too much ammo or fuel on board.........unless you're on fire)
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To: Redcloak

I run Firefox or Mozilla on my Linux boxes and am able to view well over 95 percent of the sites I visit. I use Firefox for all of my ecommerce stuff incuding bill paying and have been very happy with the results. Even on Windows, I have IE, Firefox and Opera all there, but I won't use IE, because of the swiss cheese like security, unless a site that I badly want to see will do nothing except IE.

My favorite right now is Firefox. It is fast, reliable, and doesn't have as many security problems as IE, and it runs under both Windows and Linux, although I run Linux most of the time.


5 posted on 12/20/2004 10:26:31 PM PST by VRWCRick
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The only thing I can't access with Firefox is that Toshiba copier. (Kinda odd when you think about it. The "brains" of that copier is a Linux system.)


6 posted on 12/20/2004 10:28:56 PM PST by Redcloak ("FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS!" -Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: dcam

But wouldn't a "skinned" version of IE still have all of the security problems of the original? With Firefox, you get the functionality as well as reliable security.


7 posted on 12/20/2004 10:31:23 PM PST by Redcloak ("FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS!" -Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: Redcloak

Just switched to Firefox, 2 days ago.

Love it.


8 posted on 12/20/2004 10:37:43 PM PST by MonroeDNA (“I feel more comfortable with Soviet intellectuals than I do with American businessmen.” --Soros)
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To: Redcloak
It's taken six years and the utter failure of Netscape the company, but Mozilla is finally delivering on its promise.

Wrong!

Mozilla has been GREAT and an obvious no-brainer substitute for IE since 2002. Only now is it catching on, but it's been great since 2002 (v. 1.3, IIRC).

In general, I don't even use the tabbed browsing...I developed a habit of running a separate copy of the browser for each thread or page, and using the system tray (stacked two or three rows high on my Gigantotron monitor) to manage them. I suppose I'll eventually adapt, but in my opinion, tabbed browsing is not the best feature of Firefox.

Rather, I think its best feature is its open source code, and light, nimble size. It's elegant. Compared to that, IE seems sclerotic and, well, Soviet in its design. Not to mention that IE and Lookout! are like huge sewer pipes pumping virii and malware onto the hard drive.

Mozilla/T-bird is truly the best free option available.

9 posted on 12/20/2004 10:40:00 PM PST by Petronski (A suitable case for treatment.)
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To: Redcloak
Broadband Firefox users should try ForecastFox 0.5.8. It will put the Weather Channel forecast of your choice in the taskbar. Completely customizeable (I selected the three-day, day-and-night forecast for my ZIP) and totally cool.

The only thing it doesn't do is improve the weather. ;O)

10 posted on 12/20/2004 10:44:06 PM PST by Petronski (A suitable case for treatment.)
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To: Redcloak

Firefox is terrific. I just ran my virus scanner a few minutes ago and it picked up 2 new exploits I received from Microsoft IE security holes. I only run IE when a page won't load correctly in Firefox (which is rare) and even on though I seldom use it I still get a security breach.

I may just delete IE entirely and get it over with. Microsoft better wake up because Firefox is a real competitor and it's spreading fast.


12 posted on 12/20/2004 10:53:38 PM PST by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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It is extremely difficult to remove Microsoft IE. Do you know that you can paste a web address into a file explorer in windows, hit 'Go' and pull that web page up in the file explorer window?

They're the same app.

The only way I can think of defeating IE is to deny it access to winsock, but I have no idea how this would be done.


13 posted on 12/20/2004 10:56:46 PM PST by Petronski (A suitable case for treatment.)
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To: Petronski

Broadband users should also check out this these tips from FReeper Korn...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299854/posts


14 posted on 12/20/2004 11:08:41 PM PST by Redcloak ("FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS!" -Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: Petronski

You're right Petronski, it's too integrated to actually "delete" it. I guess I'll just have to delete all the IE shortcuts I can find so I'll have to actually hunt for it if I want to use it. That will give me time to come to my senses, lol.


15 posted on 12/20/2004 11:11:52 PM PST by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: Petronski; Reagan is King
IIRC, the DOJ demonstrated a version of Windows with IE removed as a part of their anti-trust suit.
16 posted on 12/20/2004 11:12:59 PM PST by Redcloak ("FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS!" -Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: Redcloak

You don't suppose I could buy that somewhere? ;OD


17 posted on 12/20/2004 11:15:55 PM PST by Petronski (A suitable case for treatment.)
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To: Redcloak

http://news.com.com/Expert+says+IE+can+be+removed+from+Windows/2100-1001_3-219029.html


18 posted on 12/20/2004 11:22:22 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: Redcloak
I use Firefox exclusively and it fits my needs perfectly. Since I use only laptops and my main machine has a 1920x1200 15.5" display in a docking station, it's great to just hit "CTRL +" to increase font size while kicking back with my wireless keyboard and mouse. I could also never live without tabbed browsing again, since by the time I finish reading the page I'm on, the links I've opened are all loaded and ready in the next tab.

I use the MOOX builds of Firefox since they are hands-down the fastest out there with full pipelining support and custom tailored to high-speed computers on high-speed connections. (http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/)

Now if Microsoft would finally get around to releasing a version of Windows that supports the 64-bit extensions for my Athlon 64 3400+ and I'll finally be a happy man (I'm tired of having to reboot into SuSE in order to take advantage of my processor's 64-bit support while rendering videos).

19 posted on 12/20/2004 11:26:13 PM PST by sc2_ct (Veritas Aequitas)
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To: Petronski

My IE got hijacked by a conglomeration of adware centered
around "Bargain Buddy" ( It has a little dog icon. )

I ran Spysweeper ( recommended by my ISP ) and it finds
and removes things, but if I run IE again they "come back".

I'm subsisting on Netscape Communicator 4.79 ( which I
prefer ) and Netscape 7.02 ( since Netscape 4 is
"broken". )


20 posted on 12/20/2004 11:36:16 PM PST by dr_lew
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