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The Guild 10-11-2004 Three Stooges Reunite!

Posted on 10/11/2004 5:04:17 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty

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To: Endeavor

Teresa Heinz Kerry explains to Hispanic women in Orlando, Fla.
that it's important to keep one's husband under control.
"When he starts to forget who controls the pursestrings," she said,
"I just get one of the servants - a big, strapping fellow -
to push down on his head, like this, and keep pushing
and pushing until his knees buckle and he screams out in pain."
She added, "It's really quite a lot of fun."
121 posted on 10/13/2004 1:55:02 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer

Great - funny stuff.

I needed that.


122 posted on 10/13/2004 2:32:00 PM PDT by lodwick (He that meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.)
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To: BigWaveBetty

Is it time for another thread?

Seeing those doofs after each post is beginning to get me down...why are JJ's eyes open during what I assume is a prayer?


123 posted on 10/13/2004 2:33:54 PM PDT by lodwick (He that meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.)
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To: mountaineer
A peek into Mama T's kitchen:

The campaign has taken a toll not only on her cooking but on her weight. "I've gained so much weight now because I eat late and I'm so tired, it's just very hard," she said. "For someone who has always been thin, either you become neurotic about it or give up and say, when this is over I'll deal with it. I'll cut out wine.' "

For a trip to Colorado, where she joined her husband to celebrate her 66th birthday, she packed several good bottles. "The wine cellar is not bad at the farm," she wrote in a note to me.--N Y Slimes

If her husband becomes president, she said, she will fulfill the traditional role of first lady. Asked if she would cook in the White House, she said: "I know there is a tiny little kitchen somewhere there, and I know I'll make my sauces unless I can teach the big chef to make the sauces the way I like them: they have more garlic in them than most people like."

Maybe THAT'S why she and Flippin are always kiss-avoidant.

124 posted on 10/13/2004 2:48:44 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (In my jammies in an undisclosed location.)
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To: They'reGone2000
I'll cut out wine

Why do I have the impression Teresa would rather go without breathing than cut out wine?

125 posted on 10/13/2004 2:58:37 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Timeout
Chrissy Matthews has gone around the bend...again. On tonight's show,he has now mentioned the "rumor" about Bush having an IFB in his ear to get help "in the debate last weekend". First, the rumor is about the first debate, not the one last weekend. Mostly, though, it's a RUMOR---based on a crease in the back of Bush's jacket. I'm gobsmacked that Chris has stooped to spreading trash like this...notably since he never picked up rumors about Kerry having notes at the same debate.

This idiocy was fodder for discussion at work today. I pointed out to the two that claimed Bush was wired that the rumor was an allegation made by Chrissy and that his so called "evidence" was a crease in W's jacket. They were dumbfounded, and shut up immediately.

There is only so much I'm willing to take, and I've reached my limit.

126 posted on 10/13/2004 5:07:09 PM PDT by pubmom (Suffering from DITS (Democrat induced tourette's syndrome)since 1992.)
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To: mountaineer

I'm trip-planning. :)


127 posted on 10/13/2004 5:07:48 PM PDT by Timeout (Proud, card-carrying member of JAMMIE NATION)
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To: mountaineer

BTW, Air France has some great winter/spring specials up.


128 posted on 10/13/2004 5:08:23 PM PDT by Timeout (Proud, card-carrying member of JAMMIE NATION)
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To: pubmom

Tom Brokaw and Tim Russert are making a big deal out of the fact that "even the president's supporters say they want a different 2nd term".

Well, slap me silly.
They don't want another 9/11?!
More corporate scandals?
War?

Imagine that.


129 posted on 10/13/2004 5:38:17 PM PDT by Timeout (Proud, card-carrying member of JAMMIE NATION)
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To: Timeout
Ugh, just saw that ad and my first thought was, signed up for the free college did ya? It may be callous but my opinion is if you join the military, expect bad things including death to happen, kinda of like life only on crack. And to expect that we should be out of Iraq by now (whether or not WMD was found) is just plain stupid.

a former INS officer telling the truth about the Dem's candidate who refused to deal with the terrorists in her midst when she was head of FSU.

I haven't seen too many Martinez ads and Betty Castor (his opponent) is trying like crazy to side step that little al Arian problem. She's down right hawkish on terrorists and I haven't heard her say that Iraq was a mistake,,, yet.

Gen. Franks out there swinging!

NICEVILLE, Fla. - The United States should have quickly reformed the Iraqi army after most of its soldiers walked off the battlefield and got them "working for us," retired Gen. Tommy Franks said Tuesday.

Franks, who oversaw combat in Iraq (news - web sites) and Afghanistan (news - web sites), told reporters it may have taken "a couple billion dollars," but that he would have liked to have put Iraqi troops "back on the payroll right quick."

"What we could have done better, should have done better, what I would have liked to have seen done better, once they were gone, is hire them back," the former Army general said before making his first Florida campaign appearance for President Bush (news - web sites).

Neither Bush nor Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld should be blamed because Congress never appropriated money for that purpose and no other country offered to pay for it, Franks said.

"I fault bureaucratic behavior in my own country and in the international community," he said.

Franks spoke with reporters before addressing a staunchly Republican, pro-Bush crowd of about 800 at Okaloosa-Walton College in this military town. Niceville is within earshot of warplanes landing and taking off at nearby Eglin Air Force Base.

Visiting the Florida Panhandle after appearing with Bush in Colorado, Franks also disputed statements attributed to him in "Intelligence Matters," a new book by Sen. Bob Graham (news, bio, voting record).

The Florida Democrat wrote that Franks told him in February 2002, more than a year before the Iraq invasion, that his resources already were being shifted for that conflict.

Graham also contends Franks told him fighting terrorism in Afghanistan, Somalia and elsewhere should take priority over invading Iraq.

"Not at one point — ever — did I ever question the need to move into Iraq," Franks said.

Franks said Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) already was harboring terrorists and that eight years of U.S. pilots getting shot at while enforcing sanctions against Iraq was enough and it was time to act.

Funny, that's just what he wrote in his book. Gen. Franks has never struck me as the type to talk out of school, Graham on the other hand... Well I'm sure Bob will produce his notes on the conversation from his little daily diary. The Graham Cracker crumbles again.

130 posted on 10/13/2004 5:49:54 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (KEdwards vowed to hunt down al Qaeda wherever it is, unless wherever's in Iraq.)
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To: Timeout
Amazing how they try to twist the meaning of things, eh?

At the risk of sounding arrogant, I'm tired of all the ill-informed Bleep Bleeps that get their information from the MSM. Lately, I've been encouraging people to get online and research the issues for themselves instead of lapping up every ignorant, biased opinion fed by the nightly news.

Heck, I've referred two friends to FR this week who are voting for Bush. This place is an outstanding information collection point.

131 posted on 10/13/2004 5:53:38 PM PDT by pubmom (Suffering from DITS (Democrat induced tourette's syndrome)since 1992.)
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To: lodwick
Seeing those doofs after each post is beginning to get me down...

Don't be down, think of it as incentive.

why are JJ's eyes open during what I assume is a prayer?

Scoping out some new ladies no doubt.

132 posted on 10/13/2004 5:55:04 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (KEdwards vowed to hunt down al Qaeda wherever it is, unless wherever's in Iraq.)
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To: BigWaveBetty

;-) Whatever you say.


133 posted on 10/13/2004 6:05:03 PM PDT by lodwick (He that meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.)
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12 Oct 2004 | Berit Kjos


HOMELAND SECURITY LINKS HOME SCHOOLERS TO TERRORISTS

By Berit Kjos

October 12, 2004

NewsWithViews.com

"The public school establishment hates homeschoolers. They've smeared the movement as a conspiracy of conservative Christian zealots.... They've painted homeschooling parents as uneducated and negligent. And now, under the guise of preparing students for a violent terrorist attack, educators in one public school district are casting homeschoolers as bomb-detonating militants."[1] Michelle Malkin, "Homeschooling ambush"
On September 20, the Department of Homeland Security sponsored a mock assault on a school bus. The fictitious terrorists who supposedly planted a bomb on a school bus were portrayed as a group of home schooling radicals labeled "Wackos Against Schools and Education." The Muskegon Chronicle describes the role-playing scenario involving local students:

"Muskegon County officials want to be prepared in case the unthinkable happens here. So it was that 25 students ... found themselves crammed at odd angles into a school bus that had been turned onto its side Tuesday morning.

"The scenario for the exercise on Durham Road near Holton-Whitehall Road began after a domestic terrorist group exploded a bomb in the front of the bus. The student victims wore makeup that simulated blood, burns and other injuries. Each wore a tag with a made-up name, age, type of injury and other information.

"Many of the volunteers were from theater class. 'We all carried on and got into character as best we could,' said Kristin Smith, 17, a Reeths-Puffer senior. They screamed and banged on the inside of the bus, waiting to be rescued. Some wouldn't get out alive. Others were assigned to die on the way to the hospital....

"Organizers tried to make the exercise as realistic as possible, complete with distraught parents arriving at the scene."[2]

Do you wonder why Homeland Security officials would sponsor an emergency preparedness drill that painted home schooling families as bomb-planting terrorists? We may never know the full answer, but recent history of "prevention" tactics and hostility toward traditional values exposes some frightening facts many Americans prefer to ignore.

The script for this disaster drill was written by Daniel Stout, chief deputy for emergency services with the Muskegon County Sheriff's Department. After choosing to label peaceable home schooling families (rather than Islamic radicals) as the terrorist killers, Stout was told that the event would be offensive -- but he chose to ignore the warning.

In a report titled "Homeschoolers Portrayed as "Terrorists," Michigan's Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) adds the following details:

"On Monday, September 20, the Muskegon Chronicle reported on a Department of Homeland Security sponsored terrorism drill involving the Muskegon Area Intermediate School District and the Muskegon County Emergency Services. A mock attack would occur on a public school bus. The simulated attack would come from a fictitious radical group called 'Wackos Against Schools and Education' who believe everyone should be homeschooled.

"We immediately called the Muskegon Chronicle and explained how this is offensive to millions of people who have chosen to exercise their right to homeschool. Homeschoolers have never committed violent acts against public schools or any terrorist acts. Comparing us to the most dangerous people in the world is a terrible insult and a travesty."[3]

Michael H. Bozym, Superintendent, Muskegon Area Intermediate School District responded with this apology:

"The Muskegon Area Intermediate School District (MAISD) shared the disappointment of others when we learned the September 21, 2004, emergency preparedness drill referenced home-schoolers as the fictitious group responsible for a mock disaster. We apologize.... A sample scenario was required in order to receive the necessary funding to stage the event. The Muskegon Area Intermediate School District and our local schools did not construct the scenario, but participated with other county agencies, hospitals, and emergency responders in conducting the drill.

"This exercise was meant to sharpen the skills and response time of our emergency services personnel, but was unfortunately clouded by the choice of this fictional group.... We sincerely regret offending home school educators."[3]

Daniel Stout added his apology for the bias expressed in his script:

"In the world today, Homeland security is a very important issue. The training of our nation to respond to the many threats we face is of utmost importance. As part of a full scale homeland security exercise on September 21, 2004 in Muskegon, I wrote about a fictional group and fictional scenario for the exercise. This fictional group and scenario made reference to fictional people who are against schools. This fictional group and scenario was not meant to offend any home school students. It has nothing to do with any home school population...."[3]

It has a lot to do with the home school population! Though it would have been politically incorrect to link fictional terrorists to Muslim radicals, home schooling families have become a permissible target for all kinds of hostile media assaults. Like Christian pastors and fathers, they face endless mockery and ridicule in movies, slanted news reports, and public school curricula. They simply don't fit the new vision of the 21st century community.

In light of our Supreme Court's growing tendency to seek legal models in European law, the following examples show an ominous trend:

1. New Sitcom Plans to Lampoon Home Schooling: "A new cable TV sitcom pokes fun at home schoolers, pushing the myth that children who get their education at home lack sufficient 'socialization' skills. The WB network [providers for Yu-gi] will be airing a 30-minute comedy called The O'Keefes...."

2. Homeschooling Under Fire. "This view, which likens homeschooling to the criminal act of child abuse, was to become the pillar upon which Iowa’s homeschool crisis was founded. A corollary view holds that homeschooling parents are potential 'closet child abusers,' and that the State must conduct routine surveillance of this atypical, 'abnormal' family. Many social reformers held the cynical notion that it was implausible that parents would desire to stay home and educate children out of genuine affection, devotion, and sincere conviction. The nasty inference was made that there must be some sinister ulterior motive for wanting to keep the children at home."

3. Judges try to snatch homeschoolers - Families escape homeland to keep from losing children to state: "Germans who choose to homeschool their children are coming under increasing pressure from the state with some families escaping the European Union nation to keep from having their children taken from them.... A few weeks ago, HSLDA reports, a German homeschool family escaped to Central America under threat of a judge who wanted to take custody of the couple's school-aged child. ... [See Ban truth - Reap Tyranny]

4. Children flee homeschool cop: "'The homeschooled boys have been on edge,' says their father Roger, since a truant officer came to the family's front door Oct. 3 and warned, 'I could have your children taken away.'"

WHY THE HOSTILITY TOWARD HOME SCHOOLING?

While home schooling parents are less likely to fight back, there are other reasons why change agents in education and government agencies would want to discourage home education. Home schooling families are unlikely to applaud today's march toward a government controlled system of "lifelong learning" in collective thinking and pluralistic values. They are more likely to trust the Bible and the U.S. Constitution than to trust the growing body of UN treaties. They prefer factual history to earth-centered myths and biased social studies curricula. And they avoid participation in the Hegelian dialectic process that immunizes adults as well as children against God's unchanging truths.[4]

In other words, their "separateness" doesn't fit the global plan for "continual change" and worldwide solidarity. Remember Al Gore's sobering warning at a 1991 Communitarian conference in Washington DC: "Seeing ourselves as separate is the central problem in our political thinking."[5]


134 posted on 10/13/2004 6:27:14 PM PDT by lodwick (He that meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.)
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Woo hoo! Dubya WON this one BIG TIME!

Look for a landslide election for GWB!!

135 posted on 10/13/2004 7:34:44 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (KEdwards vowed to hunt down al Qaeda wherever it is, unless wherever's in Iraq.)
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To: Endeavor; Timeout
Let's take the lala drug.

Oh come on. There's less than 3 weeks left. Instead of takin mind alterers, let's just plan on getting together and raising a little Middle Aged He!! when it's over.

136 posted on 10/13/2004 8:18:57 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: BigWaveBetty
Mercy, it looks like Mama T is going to strangle our dear Laura...


137 posted on 10/13/2004 8:35:34 PM PDT by daisyscarlett
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To: Iowa Granny

I can live with that suggestion.


138 posted on 10/13/2004 8:39:28 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: daisyscarlett
It looks like she's reaching out for consolation.

"Waah, Laura, what am I going to do, Wahhh! I'm strapped with a loser... wahhh!

139 posted on 10/13/2004 8:49:27 PM PDT by pubmom (Suffering from DITS (Democrat induced tourette's syndrome)since 1992.)
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To: pubmom
She definitely was not pleased when Lurch said he married up-way up...joking or bragging I guess about her having so much more money than Laura or Mrs. Schiffer...

Lurch looked awful tonight...he was better looking the first debate when he was post-orange...hee hee...

140 posted on 10/13/2004 8:52:45 PM PDT by daisyscarlett
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