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To: BushRep
The only reason why California and New Jersey are not joining the Republican national trend is a very poor state organization in each state. There are many Republicans who might as well be Democrats, and then you have crazy ideologues who can't understand that you can't elect a real conservative until you elect moderate Republicans who move the state from liberalism.

We won every state where we have an organization running, regardless of the Democrats.
15 posted on 11/07/2002 1:34:45 PM PST by BushRep
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To: BushRep
Campbell is sick, and he is retiring from public life.

I think one of the Congressional delegation will step up to the plate.

The bigger question is who do Democrats nominate? Sanders again?
16 posted on 11/07/2002 1:35:54 PM PST by BushRep
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To: BushRep
What you said may or may not be true in California. It is patently false in New Jersey.

Forrester ran as a center-right candidate, more to the center than the right, a very moderate position. He had the support of the full party machinery. He performed well in the debates. He got trounced by a liberal retread, getting all of 44% of the vote.

If we rewind to the Governor's race, Bret Schundler got little, if any, support from the party, running as a solid conservative. His performance in the debates was erratic and disappointing to his most ardent supporters (he was not as energetic or eloquent as he normally is). He got 42% of the vote, merely 2% less.

What does this mean? It may mean that neither ideology or party effectiveness mattered. Or it may mean that had Schundler gotten full party support, which moderates always insist on from conservatives but often hesitate to give when the roles are reversed, he would have done better.

But one thing the data does not support is that NJ's problem is that it runs too conservative candidates. One could argue that it was the running of liberal/moderate Republicans (and winning with them) that accelerated the state's leftward tilt.

122 posted on 12/02/2002 4:48:58 AM PST by William McKinley
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