Posted on 11/20/2025 6:12:42 PM PST by Angelino97
Is it wrong for white Christian men to have a sense of identity?
Ben Shapiro seems to think so. During a recent interview with Dana Loesch, the Daily Wire host lamented the rise in white identity among young conservatives. “I think we can start with what’s driving this in the first place,” Shapiro said. “For a decade or more, there was an attempt by the left to target Christian white men.”
Continuing, he explained:
"In saying that over and over and over, they started to create a feeling in a lot of young white men, that as a targeted group, they actually were an identity group of their own, and that now as an identity group of their own, they must rise up and lay low anyone who is not a member of that group."
Shapiro’s two assertions are correct: the left promulgates anti-white identity politics, and many younger conservatives have developed a sense of white identity in response to it.
But his read of the situation is simplistic. White people can have a positive sense of identity without needing to “rise up and lay low” people from other backgrounds.
It is reasonable not only for white conservatives but also for conservatives of any racial background to object to demographic change, race preferences, and the demonization of European contributions to world civilization. One could certainly oppose these things on colorblind grounds, as conservative activist Chris Rufo has done, since it appears to be the most effective way to build a broad coalition capable of winning elections and changing laws.
But just as Asians may oppose woke policies on the grounds that they feel personally targeted, so, too, do many white people oppose them because they feel targeted. It is entirely reasonable to oppose a policy that directly targets you because of your race, while supporting a colorblind approach to undoing those policies.
In other words, it would be entirely sensible for a white American to object to becoming a minority in a country where discrimination against and demonization of whites is not only legal but widely celebrated. I fail to see why a self-respecting person of any race would support such discriminatory treatment of their own group. Does this qualify as white identity politics?
Clearly, it would be a grievous mistake to look at our current situation and conclude that the solution is to hate all non-white people, expel all blacks from America, advocate for violence, or become as loud and annoying about one’s white identity as the woke activists are about theirs. Those who espouse this hardline white identity politics are often crude and disagreeable, and I’m convinced most on the right who categorically reject any form of white identity are responding to them.
Yet those who seek to quash any sense of white self-identification among younger generations misunderstand the phenomenon and are doomed to fail. Life experiences for young Americans differ dramatically from those of their elders.
For one thing, many young white people grew up in raucous minority-majority schools, where to be white may be to stick out like a sore thumb. Spend a little time on X and you are bound to see videos of black mob violence against white teenagers in high schools across the country. It doesn’t help that in class these students are taught to feel ashamed of their ancestors’ real or perceived sins, a narrative that is also promoted by political elites, entertainers, and the mainstream media.
It’s a sorry situation. But one thing’s clear: telling young white Americans that these problems don’t exist is the surest way to lose credibility in their eyes.
Like it or not, many young white people are being forced to confront the realities of race. To ensure they avoid overreacting, it is important to eschew the finger-wagging and moral denunciations that brought us here.
Those who point to antiwhite discrimination are now so accustomed to scolding that they’ve become immune to it. Instead, what is needed is to calmly and rationally acknowledge the injustice they see while explaining why things shouldn’t be taken too far.
What does such an explanation look like?
In the first place, it’s important to stress that hardline white identity politics is a dead end for the right. If ending anti-white racism and mass immigration are the goals, then the right must build a coalition capable of winning elections and changing laws.
Appealing only to white people is unlikely to make that happen. In fact, Trump campaigned on mass deportations and opposition to anti-white DEI policies, yet he won by increasing his share of minority voters at the same time he supported these policies. Had he adopted a hard white identity politics approach, not only would he have alienated non-white voters, but he also would have alienated many whites.
Second, hardline white identity politics doesn’t offer a path to individual or national flourishing. Look at the white nationalist movement to see what happens to those who subscribe to and get caught up in this ideology. It always ends badly. They find themselves cut off from polite society—not only because of the risk of doxing, but also because the demand for an ever-ratcheting ideological purity puts one at odds with most people, even white conservatives, who do not share their views.
It is perhaps no surprise that when one looks at the numerous high-profile white nationalists who have disavowed the movement—from Derek Black to Jeff Schoep—one notes how easily, once leaving, they became leftists. If this kind of intellectual instability isn’t a wise idea at the individual level, it certainly isn’t going to be at the national level.
The third and last reason is that the form of white identity advocated by hardline proponents is not, as they assert, historically accurate. It’s true that white identity has played a role in American history. British colonists recognized themselves as distinct from Indians and black slaves and understood that those racial differences were greater than whatever ethnic and religious divides separated them from other Europeans.
But modern proponents of hardline white identity politics, who reduce everything to race, ignore the realities of ethnicity, culture, and religion. Putting your racial identity above all else is a sign of deracination, not a return to tradition.
Nevertheless, that doesn’t mean that race is an inconsequential factor in society. We can support racially neutral laws while at the same time opposing the third-world demographic transformation of the West.
Recognizing and celebrating the unique achievements of Europeans need not entail supremacism. We can acknowledge that group differences exist without resorting to hatred. And there’s simply no reason why white Christian men should be uniquely denied a sense of identity.
Some, like Ben Shapiro, might disagree on that last point. But the onus is ultimately on them to demonstrate that their position is not rooted in an anti-white double standard.
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Im pretty confidant that many if not the majority of the people around here that he is fooling know full well its propaganda that they pretend to believe to draw more in to the cause.
It's ok to say you're a Jew and proud:
Benny - Ivri Anochi - I'm a Jew and I'm Proud - The Music Video
Jews live in fear of Nationalism
The article makes a simple point.
1. Everyone is free to identify however they like. Doesn't make them evil or racist.
2. It doesn't matter if you or anyone else (Europeans, Bantus, Martians) thinks their identity is silly.
Then keep it confined to “white American pride” and leave Jesus out of it or quote Him where he says anything about white pride. You alluded to multiple tongues at Pentecost, and that’s ironic given that that event is the most anti-Racist miracle of the ENTIRE Bible. And Jesus wasn’t even present that day. He had already ascended into Heaven by then. The whole point. was now, the believers left behind spoke in *different* languages to their own by the power of the Holy Spirit.
It’d be like you all of a sudden speaking Swahili and understanding Japanese.
The whole point of Pentecost was that the CURSE of linguistic barriers that had divided Creation at the Tower of Babel in Genesis - was REVERSED. The ethnic barriers REMOVED.
And from there, was set off the advancement of a Kingdom where people from every tribe, tongue, and nation would be united as ONE RACE under CHRIST. Not under skin color. Not under state. Not under nation. But CHRIST. And if that does not appeal to you, then Heaven won’t be your jam. So again, leave Jesus out of it.
Adriana Lima has a diverse ethnic background, including Portuguese, Native Brazilian, African, Japanese, Swiss, and West Indian (Barbadian) heritage. She personally identifies as Afro-Brazilian.
Eve wouldn't have eyebrows since she didn't have to "work by the sweat of her brow" and wouldn't have darkened skin from working in the sun.
I never mentioned Jesus. You dragged Jesus into it just now.
You're talking to yourself. Raising all sorts of issues and objections to things that were never said.
This only happens whenever anyone raises the issue of white identity.
No one challenges anyone who identifies as Jewish or black or Asian. No one demands that they prove or justify their identity.
But when one raises the issue of white identity, all sort of objections are raised. What is white? Who is white? Does white even exist? Look, these people don't identify as white. What does Jesus say and by the way don't drag Jesus into it.
Nobody has to justify their identity. It doesn't have to make sense to anyone else. It doesn't require justification or agreement. And one can be a perfectly good Christian whether one identifies as white or not.
Conservatives who reject identity politics see it as distinctly LEFTIST and TOXIC feature.
And clearly more black, white, green, and blue Americans need to get out more. To see just how American they really are. And if it’s so bad being one then go back to your ancestral home! Simple! 🙄
It’s about culture, not DNA.
The Melting Pot created a unique American Culture. But the Left decided the Melting Pot was a racist concept, and advocated Balkanization.
Thanks, but I'll stay in the U.S. and identify as I please. It's one of my freedoms as an American.
But Good News! You are also free to identify however you please. It's a freedom we all enjoy.
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