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Posted on 11/17/2025 7:29:16 AM PST by karpov
The largest changes in college enrollment by black students have nothing to do with Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard (2023), which banned affirmative action (“diversity”) in undergraduate admissions. SFFA practically only affects the narrow sliver of elite colleges. For most black students, the question remains the same as it is for all American students: Is it worth going to college at all? Many black students are saying no—because many American students are saying no.
Kimberly Wilson writes in Essence (“Where Black Women Come First”) an article about the decision to enroll in college that applies just about word for word to any American kid’s thought-process:
Does the investment actually pay off anymore (I say this as someone who also carries more than $200K in law school student loan debt)? […] [H]igher education isn’t a one-size-fits-all path anymore. Whether it’s a four-year university, community college, trade school, or direct-to-workforce training, the most important question is no longer Where are you going?—it’s What will it be worth? [emphases in original]
And fewer black students are going to college—just as there are fewer white students going to college. White student enrollment fell 22 percent from 2012 to 2022, slightly more than the 19-percent fall in black student enrollment. Even though Hispanic and Asian student enrollment rose during that time period, total undergraduate enrollment was down 8.43 percent between 2010 and 2024. American students, white and black, increasingly are unconvinced that college is worthwhile for them.
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Foreign students bring extra tuition fees.
If colleges were not able to force students to take classes in what could be grouped under the heading of grievance studies, there would be a lot fewer jobs for PhD’s in those fields. Ending DEI employment will also lead to far fewer people majoring in worthless, even anti-American, majors
Good for them. Young people of all colors need to think hard about whether college is worth it. Way too many times its not. Kids can make more learning a trade than getting a useless degree from a third-rate college and being saddled with massive debt.
College Attendance Certificates won’t automatically get you a job anymore. Most employers are blowing them off.
A degree in grievance studies might get the holder a plum job in the government sector.
Blacks stop attending HBCUs, and Trump wants to keep them solvent with Chinese students?
How much of the decline was because of smaller cohorts of graduating high school seniors?
“Kids can make more learning a trade than getting a useless degree from a third-rate college and being saddled with massive debt.”
Bear in mind most of the male invaders that intend to do honest work intend to work in the trades.
That’s 15 million male invaders.
“Good for them. Young people of all colors need to think hard about whether college is worth it. Way too many times its not. Kids can make more learning a trade than getting a useless degree from a third-rate college and being saddled with massive debt.”
Yes indeed. The cultural narrative still holds that everyone should go to College, and that is being pushed everywhere from school teachers and counselors to parents around the dining room table. It needs to stop. I am glad to see that at least some of the stigma of not going to off to College is slowly being eroded. It’s a start, at least.
“Chinese students”
I have no problem with such students at the undergraduate level.
Students lacking US citizenship should not be eligible to receive US government funding.
My experience with graduate teaching assistants is that they save professors the trouble of grading student work.
They also prevent the professor from learning why and what students aren’t learning.
I worked in a large papermill. Every coworker of skilled trades like steamfitters, welders, electricians, machinists, plumbers, and heavy equipment operators, was between the ages of 55 and 75. It's crisis level bad.
When I was a graduate TA, the grading part was true. But I did let the professor know when students were having trouble.
However, that was a while ago.
My B.A. from a small liberal arts college in 1972 has provided me a lifetime of useful knowledge and enjoyment. My life has been made richer by a traditional liberal education. I don’t regret a moment of it. My successful professional life was only tangentially related.
BUT!!! I paid only $750, and finally $1,000, per semester. It’s too bad that tuition is $30,000 per year for most undergraduates today. There are more attractive alternatives (especially given the sorry state of so-called “liberal education).
The way my mind and hands worked I was destined for a cubicle. I have always considered electricians modern day wizards. Certainly, they made as much or more than I ever did.
So should I stop donating to the United Negro College Fund?
I would suggest they watch a few videos on this site before going to college:
https://www.youtube.com/@constructionmentorpodcast/shorts
I would suggest checking it out to young blacks, whites, Latinos, etc.
And the millions of females illegals have anchor babies and apply for benefits paid for by mostly American workers. They all affect us negatively w/r/t business/jobs.
Because of AI and Robotics, trade school education is becoming a more lucrative education for young people...
Some time between 1972 and now liberal arts went off the rails. It is now a danger to civil society and our country. We are better off without it.
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