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FYI: Virginia (member of PJM) leads the country with 600 data centers devouring electricity around the clock.
1 posted on 08/17/2025 4:25:45 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: Renkluaf

Oil is as natural as it gets. I love nuclear, too. The problem with Democrats is that Democrats love and thrive on chaos. Problem solving is Democrats’ enemy. Problem causing is Democrats’ forte.


2 posted on 08/17/2025 4:29:18 AM PDT by yldstrk
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Nothing will change until a blue state is flipped red due to failed green policies. Maybe New Jersey will be the first.


3 posted on 08/17/2025 4:37:10 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: Renkluaf
FYI: Virginia (member of PJM) leads the country with 600 data centers devouring electricity around the clock.

These data centers seem to locate near Nuclear Power Plants these days.

I live in a town with a Nuke Plant.

A new data center is working hard to get the approvals to turn a Nursery Stock Farm in giant Server Farm.

Servers like to have a reliable source of Electric Power which Solar and Wind simply can't supply.

The anti-Data Center activist are hyping the fact that electric rates sky rocket wherever data centers are built.

I can certainly see that happening.

It makes sense that Trump is promoting Nuclear Power with this rapid expansion in data centers. Green Energy simply can't provide the needed power.

4 posted on 08/17/2025 4:51:15 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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“”””AlanJ
August 16, 2025 10:35 am
This piece is a masterclass in blaming the wrong culprit. PJM’s capacity spike wasn’t caused by “green fantasies” so much as three realities: surging demand from data centers, years of underinvestment in transmission, and fossil/nuclear retirements driven by economics, not just policy.

Wind and solar are the cheapest new generation sources on the grid; what’s costly is our failure to build the infrastructure to integrate them. Retail bills reflect transmission, capacity, and fuel volatility as much as generation. Pretending they’re a referendum on renewables is either ignorant or dishonest.

And lest we forget: fossil fuels have given PJM some of its worst reliability failures (see Winter Storm Elliott) when gas plants couldn’t deliver. The grid’s problem isn’t that renewables are “wishful thinking,” it’s that planning, permitting, and market rules are stuck in the past while demand and technology race ahead.

The real question isn’t “how much does hope cost?” It’s: how much longer will we let lazy scapegoating delay the upgrades actually needed?””””


The above is a comment posted by a “climate change addict”. I posted it here to show the mentality of the people who are convinced that solar and wind are free electricity.

I encourage others to read the responses to Alan J.


6 posted on 08/17/2025 4:53:45 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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This is a political issue hopefully for the governors race in NJ. As it looks if NJ continues to pursue commie style power generation the whole region will pay. Must be a way for PA and other states to require generation to offset consumption. As Jersey stops generating because they are shutting down power plants, they should pay more for their consumption.


9 posted on 08/17/2025 5:57:03 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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The country has been using natural, reasonably reliable sources for producing electricity for many years now. When you add in solar & wind, naturally it costs more because you are adding in another source that costs real money to develop & also just happens to be unreliable. Reliable electric power is a MUST for an industrialized country. Oil, gas, nuclear, hydro-lectric already supply that. Anything additional just costs extra. Developing the existing electrical grid is also a built-in necessity. This doesn’t necessarily leave out wind & solar, tho. There are niche uses for both. It’s just best to leave them out where a constant large frequency controlled controlled source is necessary


11 posted on 08/17/2025 6:04:23 AM PDT by oldtech
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They should use their worn-out windmill blades and solar panels for pavement.


14 posted on 08/17/2025 6:35:39 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The IRS needs to check to see if Soros' sign holding, Commie "resister obstructionists" pay taxes.")
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In twenty years what will be a toxic waste site?

It won’t be anything having to do with nuclear.

It will be an EV junkyard and there will be plenty of them.


16 posted on 08/17/2025 7:31:24 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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sounds a lot like enron


22 posted on 08/17/2025 4:23:13 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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