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Horten Ho 229: The Nazi Warplane That Looked Like a Stealth Bomber
National Security Journal ^ | 8/1/2025 | Brent M. Eastwood

Posted on 08/01/2025 5:50:15 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111

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To: V_TWIN

I had a brother-in-law, an old hippie who told me that back in the Sixties, he and his friends in a VW had their engine seize up on a journey, and they simply removed their engine on the fly, went to another VW right there in the parking lot, took out the engine and installed it in their own car and took off.

I admit-I had never done any work on a Volkswagen, so I was not in the least bit skeptical, but until right now, I had no idea what was involved. I just watched a YouTube video on how to do it, and am even less skeptical. It looks like something one could do in the timeframe someone parked their car and disappeared to go grocery shopping.

That was a completely scurrilous hippie thing to do. But there are people like that, no doubt.

The other experience was back in 1979, where we experienced one of the coldest winters in memory up here, and even Boston Harbor froze. I was home on Leave, and we had a big family get-together. At some point, a bunch of us decided to drive about fifty miles north to visit an uncle, but...we could not get anyone’s car to start.

At the time, I was driving an MG Midget, which notoriously had difficulty starting in very cold weather, but oddly-it was the only one that could start, but since we couldn’t all go in that car, we used it to jump my brother’s Volkswagen.

So, five of us piled into that car and drove, but the heater was completely non-functional (I think someone said the ‘heater box’ was totally rusted out, the rest of the car had large rust holes that let the bitter air into the car.

We got probably about 30 miles, and had to turn around and go back, it was so bitter cold inside of that car. Years later, there was a scene in the movie “The Martian” where the guy, trapped on Mars, tried to see how far he could go in his vehicle without heat, and had to finally call it and turn around, the cold was too extreme.

When I saw it, it reminded me of that cold winter back in 1978-79 as we drove with shivering bodies and chattering teeth out West on Route 2 in Massachusetts. We all had that same experience in that little Volkswagen, looking at each other and concluding nearly wordlessly we HAD to turn around and abandon our journey!

Now, when I think Volkswagen, I think only of engines stolen in parking lots and rusted “heater boxes”!


41 posted on 08/01/2025 8:03:33 AM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: Red Badger

Thanks for posting the Wendy Bagwell clip…. I throughly enjoyed that.


42 posted on 08/01/2025 8:07:23 AM PDT by PsyCon
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To: V_TWIN

They were designed for Europe where AC was not really needed. And believe it or not there are still a lot of people who are tough enough to live without AC. Even in the desert southwest with temps up to 120 degrees. It is actually healthier to be acclimated to natural temps.


43 posted on 08/01/2025 8:10:32 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: PsyCon

I get him and Jerry Clower mixed up because they sound so much alike!.............


44 posted on 08/01/2025 8:11:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: rlmorel

“I was driving an MG Midget, which notoriously had difficulty starting in very cold weather”

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Ha, MGs were notorious in general.

British automobiles in general have always had a bit of a poor reputation for quality.

Something I learned a few years ago about MGs is replacing engine accessories such as alternators and starters with Japanese manufacturered ones can improve on reliability quite a bit.


45 posted on 08/01/2025 8:14:21 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Red Badger

I’ve never seen that VW ad, what issue of LIFE magazine was it in, it makes the car look strong and bold, a different take from how air tight they were, like the Ted Kennedy ad showed.


46 posted on 08/01/2025 8:22:00 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

>>>... like the Ted Kennedy ad showed.<<<

That was in National Lampoon.................


47 posted on 08/01/2025 8:24:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: rlmorel

Yes, they are very simple and easy to work on. That was the whole idea. One person can do it by themselves with just a few wood blocks stacked under the engine to bolt it back up.

During the Bug days in Germany you could go to a repair shop and they could just remove and replace the engine in an hour. So the shops all had whole engines ready and waiting.

They were based on simplicity, practicality and reliability. Simple and practical sometimes requires sacrifice of comfort. So no AC and yes the heaters suffered if they were not working right. But it too was only an hour job to replace the exhaust heater boxes and they were extremely cheap. They are just stamped sheet metal and just “clam shell” around the exhaust manifolds.

But in turn one of the most comfortable small car long trips I made was in a Bug because of how the seats are made and sit off the floor more like a pickup truck. You just “sit up” in it nice and comfortable compared to most small cars where you are almost sitting on the floor. :)


48 posted on 08/01/2025 8:32:34 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: Red Badger

I remember it well.


49 posted on 08/01/2025 8:48:57 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: irishjuggler

Hitler didn’t believe in “Jewish science”, so he purged them from the German techno sphere.
No one ever said that Hitler was an all around genius. Eventually, his weaknesses destroyed his country.

Northrup YB 49.A real flying wing.


50 posted on 08/01/2025 8:58:21 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find. )
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To: dfwgator

(The “Flying Pancake.”)

That’s the Flap, Jack!


51 posted on 08/01/2025 9:04:57 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Openurmind

The first Indiana Jones movie, IIRC…


52 posted on 08/01/2025 9:42:51 AM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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To: jagusafr

“The first Indiana Jones movie, IIRC…”

Was that the same plane? I can’t remember. The Germans did some wild designs.


53 posted on 08/01/2025 9:45:06 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: rlmorel

When I was a teenager, I worked at a shop that specialized in VW’s. I could change a clutch by myself in 35minutes.


54 posted on 08/01/2025 10:05:21 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( )
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To: Red Badger

As I recall, there is an instrument panel for an ME-262 at the Paso Robles Aircraft Museum

https://ewarbirds.org/index.html


55 posted on 08/01/2025 10:07:01 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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To: ebshumidors

Disconnect the throttle cable, fuel line, A couple wires, four bolts and the engine is down.


56 posted on 08/01/2025 10:10:34 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( )
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To: GingisK

I think they brought out the 40 hp engine in 1965. Before that, it was 36 hp.
I would guess that 75 hp would be adequate for a 2000 lb. car of that era.
Used to drive a 1965 Austin 1100..49 hp...manual. Lots of pep and a hoot to drive.


57 posted on 08/01/2025 10:13:40 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find. )
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To: rlmorel

My dad and I could walk out the door and have a bug engine sitting on the ground with one trip to the tool box and never have to say a word in 1/2 hour. I don’t know how much faster we could have done it if we tried to hustle or cut corners. No power or air tools involved.


58 posted on 08/01/2025 10:39:08 AM PDT by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch. )
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To: Getready

Mine was indeed a 40 hp engine. The 1972 Super Beetle has a 72 hp engine. It didn’t weigh 2000 pounds.


59 posted on 08/01/2025 10:45:54 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: whyilovetexas111

There was a reconnaissance aircraft (the Blohm und Voss BV141) with an asymmetrical design - looks like parts of it fell off during the design process, but it flew.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/aircraft/blohm-voss-bv-141.html


60 posted on 08/01/2025 11:01:26 AM PDT by decal (They won't stop, so they'll have to be stopped)
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