Posted on 07/20/2025 11:00:25 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
thinden wrote:
“
“
It says “By Force” though. Obama, Clapper, Comey, Brennan, and Susan Rice specifically didn’t do anything “By Force” nor orchestrate others to commit Seditious Conspiracy by force.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
depends on your definition of “force”
“
See unlearner’s post about legal definition of force:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4329762/posts?page=20#20
I agree “force” has a very wide application both as noun and a verb.
How can we assume the term “by force” is a verb?
As a noun “force” could be:
2. coercion or compulsion, especially with the use or threat of violence.
Sorry to be confused, but what does that juxtaposition of pictures mean? Thanks.
You win this thread. RICO, conspiracy, denial of civil rights, possible election violations/interference etc. Not "treason" or "sedition."
Whatever charges can get it OUT of DC.
Also follow up with plenty of lawsuits. Keep them in court until the day they die.
Didn’t SCOTUS just rule that Presidential immunity only applies to Presidential acts - ones required for his job?
I don’t know of any laws that say that forcing your intel community to lie in order to target your political foes is a Presidential duty.
I was up really late last night reading in the Law of War Manual. I wish my memory was better, but I do remember reading that in defining who is a belligerent there are two tests: intent, and action. A person can be a belligerent because of intent even if their actions don’t rise to the level of violence, IIRC.
Yes. Presidents are not immune to any/all prosecution and, still, cannot commit crimes while in office.
Obama could have his lawyer set up a plea bargain where his alternative punishment is staying with Michelle for the rest of his life.
Epstein watch for him after that.
A Woody Allen movie had the plea deal of no jail but having to listen to an insurance salesman for several days.
Was the arrest of Roger Stone part of this conspiracy?
I think I read it was carried out by 28 armed agents.
They have by authority of office all the force they command. Sounds like force to me.
Hopefully, they add Hilary to the charging documents too.
I don’t think Bozo had to force them...
Even if there is a statute of limitations, it should be waived in this case. After all, they did that in New York with Trump.
I’m not sure about jurisdiction here, but I do fear that if any of this goes before a DC jury, they will never vote to convict.
You are correct. If violence was a necessary action for treason it would not say "or violence." It would say, "with violence."
Using the authority of their office to commit acts against the constitution is force enough in my opinion.
Again, Obama may be constitutionally immune for acts including criminal acts he committed while President, without constitutional impeachment and conviction while in office. (US Const., Art. I, Sec. 3, Cl. 6-7). He is, however, liable for acts while not in office.
Thank you for posting this. I hope it’s as crucial as it seems to be.
It’s unlikely Tulsi would do this without close consultation with federal attorneys.
Many thanks.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.