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A talk with my SS regional head revealed some surprises. They know about the underfunding, and think changes will come before Trump’s exit. Plans?

Raising the retirement age, “ grandfathering” 55 and older and/or reducing SS payments to high net worth recipients….question is what will they deem “ high net worth”?

1 posted on 07/05/2025 7:55:01 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

I am sure that those of us who played by the rules will get screwed.


2 posted on 07/05/2025 7:58:50 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: delta7

Ever notice that nothing else in the federal budget has a “go broke” date? Welfare doesn’t, Ukraine doesn’t, NASA doesn’t, etc etc.


3 posted on 07/05/2025 7:59:23 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….There’s really not much to)
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To: delta7

Everything changes after the Fed and the IRS are gone, oil, rare earth metals, tariffs and other revenue, and we have our real US dollar backed by gold, not to mention crypto.


4 posted on 07/05/2025 8:11:06 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: delta7

In the movie Myra Breckenridge it said a world famine will hit in the year 1974 due to ecological decline. Rex Reed in the movie looked pained and said “How many times have I heard that? I don’t believe a word of it.”

Another thing not to believe: An aged rock star who claims this is his farewell tour and he is retiring from music.

Phil Collins joked about that with his “Finally. The First Farewell Tour.” (2004)


10 posted on 07/05/2025 8:30:39 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: delta7
If the government had not instituted a "lockbox" for the excess money collected by the Social Security tax over its payments where it left a bunch if I-Owe-Me bonds in filing cabinets in West Virginia, but instead just spent the money the only difference is that Congress would have had to actively approve the current amount of spending over taxes collected and the real borrowing to pay for it. Now it just happens automatically without Congress having to get their hands dirty.

The 203x date is when that buffer runs out. The real bankruptcy date was 2021 when revenues stopped covering payments and the general revenue had to be tapped.

13 posted on 07/05/2025 8:39:15 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (I refuse to call the left "progressive" because I do not see slavery to the government as progress.)
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To: delta7

44% of the yearly federal budget for SS & Medicare...another yearly 13.2% of the federal budget goes towards interest payments.

reducing SS payments to high net worth recipients reduces SS to means or needs testing...which it kinda does already.

I tried to get GROK to define the differences between means testing and earnings testing...

it and i gave up

https://grok.com/chat/12e7837d-5aad-48f0-bf3e-b18fe8326f6c


26 posted on 07/05/2025 9:29:44 PM PDT by stylin19a ("Death Smiles At Everyone - Marines Smile Back" - 250 years of smiling - 11/10/2025)
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Trust funds? What trust funds? It’s paid by the Treasury that prints up however much money it needs to print (or create as 1’s and 0’s).


27 posted on 07/05/2025 10:02:32 PM PDT by curious7
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To: delta7

I try to be an honest man.

Therefore I will give Al Gore this...We need a “lock box” for SS taxes.

Al Gore deserves credit because politicians of both parties ignore the ponzie scheme consequences.


28 posted on 07/05/2025 10:02:53 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: delta7

SS will always be paid with a CODA over time. It equals to the deflation of the dollar about as well.

Nobody cares as long as SS recipients get their money at the expense of those younger suckers paying in, like the pyramid scehme is it.

Boomers do not care as long as they got theirs.


29 posted on 07/05/2025 10:13:11 PM PDT by Polanski
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To: delta7

It will go broke before I retire. I’ve accepted for quite a while that I’ll work until death.


31 posted on 07/06/2025 2:15:31 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (You can't remove RINOs by voting for them!)
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To: delta7

Remove the scum that shouldn’t be on SSI.


32 posted on 07/06/2025 2:55:41 AM PDT by cp124 (Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: sauropod

Bkmk


35 posted on 07/06/2025 5:13:32 AM PDT by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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To: delta7

Social security is Government ownership of old people. If they own you, they can do what they want. It must be phased out over time. Freeze current benefits for those on it now. Kick out everyone who was never meant to receive benefits in the first place. Offer buyouts to those 10-20 years away from retirement such that halve of them take it. Those over 20 years away are on their own as far as retirement is concerned but their social security tax burden gradually reduces as recipients die off and in addition, they will own their own retirement. In 30 years, it’s basically gone, never to be instituted again. Everyone sacrifices and in the end, our grandchildren are free.


39 posted on 07/06/2025 9:08:36 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: delta7

If they simply raised the cap to 250K, we’d be good another 50 years. It wouldn’t even hurt anyone.


40 posted on 07/06/2025 10:47:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: delta7

I rather look at this as perhaps the president has some changes in store for S.S. as were presented here. There are some who absolutely are only able to subsist through S.S. There are others who, though they may have paid in a lot, do not depend on them. It may come to reducing payments to some. I think I can safely say that for those who depend almost entirely on S.S. payments that are collecting at nearly the bottom of the scale that there isn’t a lot of choices left that won’t hurt them badly. If you are living only on S.S.payments, & even if you owe nothing other than normal operating expenses, own your house & car completely, you haven’t got much room to spare. Not receing any S.S. payments at that point would put you in an impossible bind.


41 posted on 07/06/2025 11:57:23 AM PDT by oldtech
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