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Did the DOGE layoffs at the National Weather Service just kill a bunch of people?
Augusta Free Press ^ | July 5, 2025 | Chris Graham

Posted on 07/05/2025 5:11:08 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: Shortstop7

Peruse through the rest of the thread. Flash floods are common in the area, and the Texas government hasn’t done their part to prepare or mitigate the looming threat. There are manmade measures that can be taken…Installing siren alerts along the river, restoring forests to act as buffers, etc…


181 posted on 07/05/2025 8:57:11 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: exDemMom

Unfortunately many people don’t have cell service in this part of hill country. And apparently Sirens were deliberately voted against being installed.


182 posted on 07/05/2025 8:58:10 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: exDemMom
Unfortunately many people don’t have cell service in this part of hill country. And apparently Sirens were deliberately voted against being installed.

To clarify, this is not on the National Weather Service to do…but Texas.

183 posted on 07/05/2025 8:59:51 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I’m in Texas, and I have gotten the warnings. Right now, the weather app in my phone says that there is a flood watch until 1 pm Sunday, July 6. Earlier today, I received an emergency alert on my phone about flash flood conditions.

I’ve not noticed that the area around Kerrville, where the drownings happened, has inadequate cell coverage. True, I don’t go that way often... but I assume they would have received warnings, as well.


184 posted on 07/05/2025 9:10:21 PM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: Soul of the South

You think it takes six hundred people to issue a flash flood warning?


185 posted on 07/05/2025 9:14:10 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Law Not in effect until October 2025.


186 posted on 07/05/2025 9:19:43 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: Soul of the South

It is a legitimate question. But based on the responses I’ve seen from people who are probably a lot more familiar with the situation than I am, it doesn’t appear the cuts had an impact on the response. But it’s absolutely a fair question.


187 posted on 07/05/2025 9:21:37 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: DesertRhino
“Sensor…. Not seltzer!”

Actually - the “sensor” could be as simple as an Alka Seltzer wafer. I placed them in the basement in between two strips of a beer can and wired to a battery hooked to a buzzer. The wafer dissolves in the flooded basement (water leak) and the alarm goes off! Luckily my patches to the old galvanized pipes lasted until I got the plastic pipes in.

188 posted on 07/05/2025 9:39:07 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant - Never Fearful)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

What garbage. The 2015 Wimberley flash flood killed a bunch of people too. Where was the sainted NWS then? Oh, and guess who was president in 2015?


189 posted on 07/05/2025 9:50:25 PM PDT by Kenny Bania (Ovaltine? Why not call it Roundtine?)
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To: Kenny Bania

sigh. it’s not the Weather service but TX can afford to do better to prepare for these scenarios.


190 posted on 07/05/2025 9:52:48 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: heylady
Unfortunately by 4am it was too late to evacuate over 700 young girls. The did a yeoman’s job but they couldn’t get to everyone. Over 700 girls were saved. Thank God for that.

I just watched a drone flyover of the camp. The camp is situated on a hillside with cabins and barracks that extend down towards the river. I am guessing a couple hundred girls or so were in the flood zone. If they would have had a warning, higher ground was not that far away..

191 posted on 07/05/2025 9:52:50 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: crusty old prospector

Ha, my phone does texts and calls. Everything else is my ol’ laptop. :-D


192 posted on 07/05/2025 10:25:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (SCARE: Social Chaos And Response Emergency)
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To: Zack Attack

That’s all the warning the government needs to give you, but you need the infrastructure in order to give those kinds of warnings.


193 posted on 07/05/2025 10:34:58 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He was so fat that it took a year for his memory foam mattress to forget him. )
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To: stanne

Kids are dead, sir.
I’m not such an ideologue, if kids are going to die that I’m going to stick with my ideology.

I don’t think that it goes against my libertarian sensibilities to have the infrastructure to allow people to know when they might be at risk of disaster. Even just a text message.

I do think the adults erred if they didn’t have somebody who took the nightshift in order to be in position to be aware of any possible disasters.


194 posted on 07/05/2025 10:37:44 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He was so fat that it took a year for his memory foam mattress to forget him. )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Kristi Noem, at a conference, today, with Governor Abbott, said that the U.S. Weather Service is using very antiquated equipment. It cannot detect weather changes that would have gave the alarm that something was happening that was very deadly.


195 posted on 07/05/2025 10:47:28 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I live in Kerr County. As to an alert/siren system I vaguely remember that coming up here years ago. It was likely in the nineties.
It was more about low water crossings than the river, IIRC. I think some company set up some sample ones. Here in Kerrville/Kerr County they used to let citizens vote on these things. Now, even if citizens vote no, our City Council/County Commissioners wait awhile, and then do whatever they want.


196 posted on 07/06/2025 12:22:18 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: Paladin2

About 900 PATCO members never went on strike and were immediately available at work. For the remaining positions, air traffic controllers in the military were temporarily moved into the civilian positions and retired air traffic controllers agreed to come out of retirement and work until an adequate number of new air traffic controllers could be trained and deployed.


197 posted on 07/06/2025 12:42:37 AM PDT by sportsleuth (Galatians 6:7)
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To: DesertRhino

Good post.

I disagree with some of the DOGE cuts, such as the cuts to NWS.

But NWS sent out warnings. Unfortunately, most people don’t hear or pay much attention to cell phone text warnings in the middle of the night.

But a loud siren would get everyone’s attention.

Also, maybe children’s summer camps shouldn’t be located in a spot known as “Flash Flood Alley,” a place where other lives have been taken by floods.

This is a terrible tragedy.


198 posted on 07/06/2025 1:52:21 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

You’re really pushing this. Article after article.
Transparent agenda


199 posted on 07/06/2025 2:50:20 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: silverleaf

Thank you. Saved me some keyboarding.


200 posted on 07/06/2025 3:23:42 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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