Posted on 06/27/2025 4:31:26 AM PDT by marktwain
President Trump is energetically pushing to pass his One Big Beautiful Bill. On June 3, 2025, the White House published 50 Wins in the One Big Beautiful Bill.
The One Big Beautiful Bill does not do everything that needs to be done. It does not cut spending as much as needed, because the Republican majorities in the House and Senate are extremely thin. However, the One Big Beautiful Bill has many excellent policy changes. The policy decisions become law with the One Big Beautiful Bill, beyond Presidential Executive Orders, so they carry more weight and cannot be reversed by a change in Presidents.
For Second Amendment Supporters, the most consequential change in the One Big Beautiful Bill is listed as number 34. From whitehouse.gov:
Here are 50 reasons why President Donald J. Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill is the best chance in a generation to pass critical reforms for which Americans voted:
34. It safeguards Second Amendment rights by removing tax and registration requirements for firearm silencers and eliminating silencers from the National Firearms Act.
50 Wins in the One Big Beautiful Bill White House Screengrab 6-20-2025 There have been many state legislative victories.There have been significant court victories. Contrary to the “all or nothing” crowd, this has resulted in significant restoration of some of the rights protected by the Second Amendment. Incrementalism is working. The protection afforded by the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) was passed by Congress. It is important, but the PLCAA did not roll back existing law.
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Don’t Trump ban the bump-stocks?
He shouldn’t talk too much about 2nd amendment type issues. Or has he apologized for that?
If Trump gets (silencers|mufflers|suppressors) and barrel length restrictions removed from the NFA, he will be the greatest friend of the Second Amendment ever.
If the law is passed, just think how many of us would make their own suppressers at home? You can do it now, but you have to jump through the ATF hoops to get it done. Kind of takes all the fun out of it. I doubt that the indoor range I go to would allow homemade suppressors, just because of the potential liability. They check ammo too. But, every time I bring one of my suppressors, they want to see the original paperwork and inspect the suppressor/verify matching numbers, etc... kind of a hassle but still cool to shoot.
Don’t Trump ban the bump-stocks?
They made a regulation. The Supreme Court ruled the ATF exceeded their authority.
Some think the regulatory ban was a tactic to keep the Congress from passing a statutory ban.
In any case, the federal bump stock ban no longer exists.
From 2017:
https://www.ammoland.com/2017/10/bump-stock-overreach/
From 2024:
https://www.ammoland.com/2024/07/trump-and-bump-stocks-shrewd-strategy-or-fortuitous-improvisation/
I haven’t heard much about bump stocks lately. Yeah, they can be purchased. Fairly reasonable I think. $200-400 for an AR.
https://bumpstock.com/shop/ssar-15/
So the precious little Dem parl is gonna let that regulatory change slip in, but not the funding for deportations (which isn’t a regulatory change), etc.?
So the tax stamp is removed, but does the transfer still have to go through the ATF? Will the new law permit person to person and remove FFL? And what about interstate transfers? he cats are now old and fat and the mice find their way to the chickens’ feed and I’m to lazy to replace the poultry wire with 1/4” hardware wire.
“It seems the ATF now has silencer wait times down to a few days now.”
This may be common knowledge but it wasn’t to me; my local gun store has a kiosk where you can complete all the requirements for submission for a suppressor and it submits the paperwork. Rumor on X has it that the suppressor company that owns the kiosks has been lobbying against the bill.
I volunteer at a State run range as an RSO and we are under orders never to check paperwork as we are not cops and probably have no idea what we are looking at as we are not trained to do so. We have shooters with SBR and silencers all the time, and we never ask. Our job is to conduct a safe range and help people to be safe if needed, but we’re not cops.
The indoor ranges often get full of themselves and want to review paperwork, but that is not a legal requirement, they just want to do it. They, too, are not trained and have no idea what they are doing.
I do understand their no hollow points rules as those can become frangible on their concrete range.
Th only thing we do not allow are 50 BMG and full autos as we have lots and lots of expensive wood baffles we don’t want shot up that also cannot stop a 50 BMG.
Just saw the latest Senate bill includes removing AOWs too! “Any Other Weapon” (AOW), are used to prohibit derringer like guns, foregrips on pistols, etc. Basically, anything the ATF wants to say is a controlled item.
That's what I have. Just curious, is yours finicky about ammo it will take?
Actually, the Senate parliamentarian just stripped these provisions from the bill. Back to square one.
“So the tax stamp is removed, but does the transfer still have to go through the ATF? Will the new law permit person to person and remove FFL? And what about interstate transfers?”
Good questions. The latest Senate bill remove all regulations from silencers, short barreled rifles (SBR), and Any Other Weapons (AOW). So no FFL or interstate transfer restrictions. They are no more regulated than a hammer or wrench.
The bill also includes provisions to prohibit States from adopting or enforcing any laws to the contrary, nullifying many laws son the books already. Some States ban these items and some add additional taxes and restrictions on the sale, transfer, storage, and use. Those State laws should be gone with this new bill.
“Actually, the Senate parliamentarian just stripped these provisions from the bill. Back to square one.”
The Senate can put them back in. She is not the final authority.
I tested 6 varieties of ammo, from the 60gr Aguila subsonic to Federal Match, and it handled them all nicely. Overall, they were within 1.5db of each other except the CCI Stinger which was always over 110db. Fast little suckers.
Oddly, the federal match was quieter than the 60gr Aguila with a Sig P322 at 98.4db vs Augila at 99db.
With a 22 rifle, the Augila was 93.4db and the Federal Match was 107.6db, which is all to do with the rifle letting the round get to a high velocity.
A pistol doesn’t do that as all 22 rounds stay subsonic, except the Stinger.
The 60gr Augila also was such a low velocity in the pistol that it was useless past 35 feet. It practically just dropped out of the air at that range. In a rifle, it can hit 200 yards consistently.
The Augila was also real dirty. Cleaning was required at 100 rounds. With the Federal Match, the silencer was fairly clean at 100 rounds.
Yea, that's what I was shooting.
A friend gave me some "old" Remington and Winchester ammo, both of which failed to feed from the magazine.
When I compared the lengths to the CCI ammo, they were about a millimeter or two shorter.
Yep. Stingers use a longer case.
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