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To: kiryandil
The neocons are feeling their oats today.

You have to admit they were right about Iran, though. It never made sense that so many were convinced that attacking Iran would cause a wider war in the Mideast and maybe even WWIII. Iran had no friends in the region, other than Syria and Iran’s surrogates in Hezbollah and Hamas (both of which have been neutered by Israel - in fact, Hezbollah just officially surrendered to Israel). On the contrary, Iran’s imagined “Muslim brothers” hated and feared them, and wanted to see the mullahs gone just as much as Israel did. Where this “wider war” was going to come from was always a mystery, given the obvious facts.

The actual path to a wider war, and possibly WWIII, was instead to keep standing idly by with their thumbs up their butts while Iran marched forward to a nuclear arsenal. THAT would most certainly have caused a massive and very dangerous war. The truth here was so obvious, and now that Israel has struck, we can see how deeply wrong the isolationists were.

I am firmly in the “screw Ukraine” and “stick to our own business” camp, but in this particular case the U.S. has a clear national interest in preventing Iran from going nuclear, and military action was the only path that would ever have been successful. Thank God Israel finally put their own self-preservation ahead of the protestations of the weak and timid.

14 posted on 06/13/2025 8:23:01 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman

So... you’re starting to get the impression that posters who use the term “neocon” and are repeatedly shown to be wrong are actually using false labels and narration? Like errr, Propaganda? Maybe they aren’t honest or credible?

It’s an information war and you’re injured.


15 posted on 06/13/2025 8:32:49 AM PDT by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
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To: noiseman

“I am firmly in the “screw Ukraine” and “stick to our own business” camp, but in this particular case the U.S. has a clear national interest in preventing Iran from going nuclear, and military action was the only path that would ever have been successful. Thank God Israel finally put their own self-preservation ahead of the protestations of the weak and timid.”

+1

I was shot and had my back broken in Iraq and despise the neocons. But happily support action against Iran, which is our real enemy and a real and present danger to the USA.

Provided we don’t put boots on the ground, except maybe to spot targets and selectively blow stuff up and kill people.

No nation building.


20 posted on 06/13/2025 10:38:56 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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